Originally posted by Silent Master
You mean they acknowledge that Civil War is a Cap movie and use that as proof that Cap has one of, if not the best superhero trilogy?
Yeah the film had nothing to do with Iron Man or the Avengers 👆
But thanks for bringing up what your agenda is: which is to call Civil War a solely Captain America movie which has nothing to do with any other Marvel franchise characters, just so you can say Cap has the best trilogy Lol
You do realise you can still say that without being butt hurt that Civil War isn't just about Cap right?
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Some people want to say Cap doesn't have the best superhero trilogy by arguing that this movie wasn't 'his'.That's basically it.
Pretty sure this movie was his, even with everyone else, as he owned everyone including Spiderman. Im fine with everyone else in it, but Cap came out looking the best.
Originally posted by Silent Master
I realize that Captain America Civil War is a Captain America movie that has other characters in it.Are you aware that it's a Cap movie that features other characters?
It's more of a Cap movie than an IM movie, but it is also an IM movie, and a semi-Avengers movie. Why? Because it progresses the story for both.
Tell me aside from the title how was Civil War any less of a duo/event movie than BvS?
Originally posted by CosmicComet
It's irrelevant if it featured everyone else.
It did a lot more than just "feature" IM. He was billed as the 2nd main character.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
-It's officially titled a Cap movie, so any claims to otherwise are already wrong.
Point is you could have had the exact same film but changed the title to "Avenger's Civil War" or "Marvel's Civil War".
Originally posted by CosmicComet
-Cap had the most screen-time, dialogue and the most action scenes and best moments therewithin.
Can say the same about Wolverine in like all the first 3 X-Men movies.
As for best scenes, you're wrong. Spider-Man, Black Panther and Ant-Man were the highlights of the film. That's not 1, but 3 other Marvel franchise characters this film featured. Think about that for a second.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
-Cap beat the antagonist (Iron Man).
Actually Protagnist and Antagonist is simplifying it in this case. As neither were fully in the right or wrong.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Sounds like a Cap movie to me.
It was a Cap and IM movie, which featured loads of other Marvel franchise characters who stole the spot light. Sounds like a Marvel event film to me.
Originally posted by Silent Master
So that's a no, you aren't aware that it's a Captain America movie that features other characters.
Skipping the question?
That's when you know you're owned.
The Supergirl episode that featured Flash was just that, because it had no impact on Flash's character or his story.
This however was part an IM film, and part an Avengers film, because it developed and impacted both franchises and character's stories.
I finally got around to seeing this. Best Marvel movie so far. Spidey was great, and Panther was a beast. I also liked how much respect Cap was given in this movie. Him beating both Spiderman (who was stomping Falcon and Winter Soldier at the same time) and IM was PIS off the charts, but it was done well and I'm glad this was given to him. I would have hated to see him get his butt kicked in this own movie.
I was kind of sad that Spidey stayed on Starks side the entire movie. The accords are definitely something he wouldn't agree with. I wish it was him who ended up helping Cap instead of Widow.
Originally posted by Darth ThorIron Mans motivation by the end was to kill an innocent man for the actions of Hydra. He was fully in the wrong there. That makes him the antagonist. That, and the fact that he was firmly at odds with Cap the entire movie, and Cap is the undisputed protagonist. A super hero movie should bill its antagonist.
It did a lot more than just "feature" IM. He was billed as the 2nd main character.Actually Protagnist and Antagonist is simplifying it in this case. As neither were fully in the right or wrong.
It was a Cap and IM movie, which featured loads of other Marvel franchise characters who stole the spot light. Sounds like a Marvel event film to me.
This movie centered on Cap and his relationship to Bucky. That was the major driving force for every encounter. Cap was the main character, and this was his movie.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
It's a Captain America movie.That [b]HEAVILY
features Iron Man.Why is this such a big deal to you hommies? [/B]
Originally posted by Silent Master
It's a Captain America movie that features other characters.
Originally posted by Silent Master
No, I was acknowledging your answer to my question. that answer being that you were and still are unaware that Captain America: Civil War is a Captain America movie that features other people.
Why, because of the title?
It seems that you're the one unaware of the difference between "features" and having a full on continuation of a franchise character's story arch plus being essential to the movie.
Originally posted by Arachnid1Iron Mans motivation by the end was to kill an innocent man for the actions of Hydra. He was fully in the wrong there. That makes him the antagonist. That, and the fact that he was firmly at odds with Cap the entire movie, and Cap is the undisputed protagonist. A super hero movie should bill its antagonist.
Well come on. Let's not make out IM was just a plain out villainous murderer in this. "Civil War" was just that, a war between the good guys themselves. The only actual "Villain" was Zemo.
Originally posted by Arachnid1
This movie centered on Cap and his relationship to Bucky. That was the major driving force for every encounter.
For the first half of the movie sure. By the second half it was very much a Cap/Bucky/IM film, with heavy features from many different Marvel franchise characters who ended up stealing the film. So it was a Marvel Event film no matter how much people try to make out it was nothing more than a Captain America film with cameo guests from some other characters.
Black Widow featured in IM2 and WS. Whereas IM was an essential part of CW with his story continued and expanded upon and connected to Bucky's. There's a big difference there.
Originally posted by Arachnid1
Cap was the main character, and this was his movie.
He was THE main character, sure. But IM was also a main character. The movie centered around Cap, Bucky AND Tony.
I don't see what the issue is here, or why people are trying to pretend this was nothing but a Cap film, with a few guest stars.
Originally posted by CosmicCometDarth Thor is a troll. I'm glad everyone is seeing him for the pile of crap he is. We have the directors stating its a Cap film centered around the friendship with Bucky. There are other characters that get involved here. That doesn't detract from the film being a Cap film. Hell, in every Nolan batman film other characters get involved but that doesn't make it not a Batman film. He's an idiot. He will try anything to take away from this film. It's an epic cap to an epic trilogy with each movie improving IMO.
It's irrelevant if it featured everyone else.-It's officially titled a Cap movie, so any claims to otherwise are already wrong.
-Cap had the most screen-time, dialogue and the most action scenes and best moments therewithin.
-Cap beat the antagonist (Iron Man).
Sounds like a Cap movie to me.
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb👆
Yah, Darth Thor really does love to drag his agendas on and on. Meh.
The directors speak on this but DT thinks he knows more than the guys who directed the film. You can't talk to someone this delusional and expect rational discussion. Just let him lick the Windows.