Captain America: Civil War

Started by Arachnid1149 pages
Arachnid1 Senior Member

Originally posted by Robtard
Yeah, not sure how I feel about that; don't really care for it, but they can def make it work with good writing. It's a shame they're seemingly dumping the Uncle Ben death-factor though, dame shame.

And the answer to your question: Because he's popular and Downey does a fantastic job as Tony Stark

I agree, but that doesn't mean he should be incorporated into Spidey's origin. It doesn't matter how popular IM is. Spidey is still one of the most well known, loved, and iconic super heroes ever written. His origin is also the most iconic.

Esau Cairn Contagious

I think from Marvel's marketing point of view, you can't have a Spiderman grieving over a death & still be wise-cracking at the same time.
We already had a dorky version.
Then an Emo version.
Hopefully this "vigilante" version will make up for the previous 2.

Robtard Senor Member

Story noted that Peter has already been crime fighting when CW starts, so they could work in Uncle Ben's death as having happened in the past (shown in quick flashbacks) and the reason why Peter become Spider-Man; instead of IM hero-worship.

Though I guess they could technically do both, if they were so inclined. Ben gets killed, Peter feels guilty as he indirectly caused the death due to anger/ego; he looks to his hero Stark for inspiration and becomes a vigilante hero himself. Alright, this works well; emailing the idea to Feige; he'll be thrilled. Sorry for the spoilers.

jinXed by JaNx Senior Member

or they could wait for the spiderman movie to worry about that

Robtard Senor Member

They could, but spending 3-4mins in flashbacks setting up this SM's backstory would be smarter, imo, since he's appearing here first.

SM's one of the most popular heros, he doesn't need another intro story in his first solo film. They should handle his backstory like Norton handled Hulk's, quick flasbacks that didn't eat heavily into the film.

ares834 Senior Member

Or they just could not show Uncle Ben dying... Again.

Anyway, the IM stuff sounds cool. As a nerd himself, it would make sense that Peter idolizes Tony Stark. There is some real potential there. Anyway, I don’t see how Spider-Man idolizing IM revamps his origin. Uncle Ben’s death likely still be the catalyst that caused SM to become a hero. They just aren’t going to waste time in a Captain America film setting up Spider-man origin so we can see it for a third time. Nor should they.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
His origin is also the most iconic.

Nah. Superman's is.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
or they could wait for the spiderman movie to worry about that
Well, this will be his first appearance and I think the fans won't stress about it too much as he's in a crowded film and the general public is familiar with his origins.

quanchi112 Disney

This film is supposedly testing very well according to screen rant. I am very much looking forward to this now. Marvel is on a tear.

Russo>>>>Snyder.

playa1258 Fear is the mind killer

Yeah and so did Green Latern. Many films have great test screenings, it means nothing.

Still continue with the Russo hero worship. Make one good film and you are untouchable.

Wasn't Whedon the hero before AOU?

Tzeentch #gottem

No, Avengers was mediocre as was Agents of Shield.

wakkawakkawakka Senior Member

So Spidey is going to be playing second fiddle to IM after all. Shame but then again Disney didn't make the deal with Sony until the end of 2014 by which point Civil War was already in the works and the MCU time frame was all but established.

Not sure what this says about MCU Cap appeal seeing as people so concerned with a Spider Man appearance in a Capatain America sequel.

playa1258 Fear is the mind killer

Everyone is playing second fiddle to IM right now. Cap is making huge strides though and is clearly number 2 now.

Kazenji Onyx Prime
Originally posted by Tzeentch
as was Agents of Shield.

Its gotten alot better these days.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by playa1258
Yeah and so did Green Latern. Many films have great test screenings, it means nothing.

Still continue with the Russo hero worship. Make one good film and you are untouchable.

Wasn't Whedon the hero before AOU?

I never said untouchable but I think winter soldier made the man of steel look pitiful by comparison.

Can't wait to hear the DC fans openly sobbing after batman v. superman.

Time-Immemorial Restricted

I won't be. It looks great.

playa1258 Fear is the mind killer

Quan actually gave a decent answer not counting the last part of course.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I won't be. It looks great.
It won't touch civil war.

playa1258 Fear is the mind killer

Pre game SB spot and spot during 2nd quarter of SB coming.

I'm hyped.

Robtard Senor Member

Originally posted by quanchi112
This film is supposedly testing very well according to screen rant. I am very much looking forward to this now. Marvel is on a tear.

Russo>>>>Snyder.

You were ranting how this doesn't look good and how you don't care for Captain America; now that people are saying it's good, you jump on board. You be you 🙂

playa1258 Fear is the mind killer

Dibs on Black Panther vs Khan