World War Superman

Originally posted by carver9
Minus the flames comment, I'm supporting good posts. My boy Delta is getting his spleen ripped out by Blue.

You really are this bad, aren't you? Let ask you this. Do you think it's a good argument to say that Wonder Woman doesn't have Superman level durability, so she wasn't trying to break Imperiex Probes, to try and dismiss Superman breaking them casually with his strength when Wonder Woman didn't scratch one despite having an axe and hitting it at the same time as Aquaman, because the energy discharge would hurt her badly, despite the fact that Wonder Woman had no clue that they would explode energy when punctured? Plus, even if we were to believe that, it makes no sense that Wonder Woman would be avoiding puncturing it by hitting it with an axe.

Originally posted by Delta1938
You really are this bad, aren't you? Let ask you this. Do you think it's a good argument to say that Wonder Woman doesn't have Superman level durability, so she wasn't trying to break Imperiex Probes, to try and dismiss Superman breaking them casually with his strength when Wonder Woman didn't scratch one despite having an axe and hitting it at the same time as Aquaman, because the energy discharge would hurt her badly, despite the fact that Wonder Woman had no clue that they would explode energy when punctured? Plus, even if we were to believe that, it makes no sense that Wonder Woman would be avoiding puncturing it by hitting it with an axe.

Wonder Woman did destroy one and the blast nearly killed her.

Originally posted by catver9
Wonder Woman did destroy one and the blast nearly killed her.

Context cat. She used her shield hitting a joint area("chink in the armor"😉 to crack it. Previously she had hit it with an axe at the same time Aquaman was punching it, and nothing happened.

Blue tries to dismiss that compared to Superman breaking them pretty easily(either breaking an arm off or punching one through) by saying Wonder Woman doesn't have his level of durability so she was avoiding puncturing it because of the damage it would do to her. Except, Superman was the only one at the time who had experienced what happens when one is punctured, and this was literally minutes or less before we see Wonder Woman fighting one. She had no idea what would happen, so there's no "She doesn't have Superman's level of durability, she wasn't trying to break it because it would hurt her "argument. Plus, it doesn't make a damned it of sense that she would try to avoid penetrating the Imperiex Probe by hitting it with an axe even if you don't know she was unaware what would happen.

Blue's arguments here are pretty much in line with that.

Post the "lucifer thread". That's where I accepted he/she was nuts.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Post the "lucifer thread". That's where I accepted he/she was nuts.

Do tell. I'm unfamiliar with this thread.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=589178

Originally posted by Delta1938
Context cat. She used her shield hitting a joint area("chink in the armor"😉 to crack it. Previously she had hit it with an axe at the same time Aquaman was punching it, and nothing happened.

Blue tries to dismiss that compared to Superman breaking them pretty easily(either breaking an arm off or punching one through) by saying Wonder Woman doesn't have his level of durability so she was avoiding puncturing it because of the damage it would do to her. Except, Superman was the only one at the time who had experienced what happens when one is punctured, and this was literally minutes or less before we see Wonder Woman fighting one. She had no idea what would happen, so there's no "She doesn't have Superman's level of durability, she wasn't trying to break it because it would hurt her "argument. Plus, it doesn't make a damned it of sense that she would try to avoid penetrating the Imperiex Probe by hitting it with an axe even if you don't know she was unaware what would happen.

Blue's arguments here are pretty much in line with that.

Who is cat?

Also, where was it confirmed that she hit a joint?

Shoulder joint:

Originally posted by catver9
Who is cat?

Also, where was it confirmed that she hit a joint?

Stop playing dumb. --oh, wait.....

REALLY? Wait, why am I surprised?

Originally posted by abhilegend
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=589178

I didn't read even the full first page, nor did I read the first article in the link today. I did read that article years ago though. The entire argument rests on ignoring that many changes to Superman used to argue happened after his creators lost control, while assuming there's some long running conspiracy. He also relied heavily on reading too much into things.

But yeah, buying that is something totally Blue.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Shoulder joint:

Its joints should still be as durable, correct? Also, how much of an amp did Aquaman have when he took out one? What Tier was he at? Wonder Woman mother (who is class 10 without the amps) took out some as well. How amped were she? Black Lightning did as well. I think the Wonder Woman showing is just as valid.

Hippolyta is class 80. She has beaten Hercules and defeated CM3 in armwrestling. And she had gauntlet of atlas boosting her strength tenfold. Black Lightning was amped on B13 nukes, Aquaman took one probe which had already beaten Ion amped Kyle/J'onn/Plastic Man/Flash in two pages by a skyfather's weapon.

The probes were beyond top tier ability to damage. A single probe defeated Zod/Bizarro/Ignition/Faora, stalemated Mordru, took out hundreds of Amazo/Hourman/Red Torando androids etc.

Originally posted by carver9
Its joints should still be as durable, correct? Also, how much of an amp did Aquaman have when he took out one? What Tier was he at? Wonder Woman mother (who is class 10 without the amps) took out some as well. How amped were she? Black Lightning did as well. I think the Wonder Woman showing is just as valid.

Well, if his armour is not flexible like Colossus' skin, then the joints would obviously be weaker. Otherwise, a probe can't move. So in order to move, there must be either a gap, or a join where the two plates meet - which, no, it wouldn't be as durable.

You also have to take into account the hardness/sharpness of WW's shield, I guess.

As to how much of an amp, I have no idea, but he was packing the trident of Poseidon, which was pretty damn powerful (much more so than what we've seen in DCnU).

Hippolyta destroyed them with her sword. Which is magically sharp. much like Wolverine stabbing Gladiator, who has flown through suns etc - piercing durability seems to be a different kettle of fish.

Black Lightning? When he was amped by B13 and a nuke? Isn't that leaving out context? Or are you lowballing?

Class 80 amped 10 folds still isn't higher or close to a low level Wonder Woman. The Nuke wasn't really that powerful looking at the damage it released. Black Lightning did most of the damage. What fts does Aquaman weapon has?

The Probes durability fts are all over the place.

Originally posted by carver9
The Nuke wasn't really that powerful looking at the damage it released. Black Lightning did most of the damage.

Originally posted by carver9
I don't debate off of collateral damage. Dark does (whenever it suits him).

What a hypocrite.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What a hypocrite.

No, just cat logic.

Hippolyta is damn close to Diana in strength to the point she can fight her on even terms. 10 times boost? She'd rip Diana's ****ing head off. Class 80 doesn't means she can only lift 80 tons, it means she is in the league of Colossus, Thing etc.

Considering 30 nukes were used along with Kismet amped superman and omega beams, I'd say they were very powerful.

This is why everyone ridicules you carter.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What a hypocrite.

Who said anything about collateral? I'm talking about Black Lightning and Supergirl being close to the blast and was ok afterwards.

Lol. You don't know the meaning of the word, do you?

Unless of course you do, and you're trying to (feebly) wriggle out of it.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol. You don't know the meaning of the word, do you?

Unless of course you do, and you're trying to (feebly) wriggle out of it.

I know the meaning, I just don't think it pertains to anything we are discussing. That's all. By the way, stop trolling me.