Lucy vs Dr. Manhattan

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Lucy vs Dr. Manhattan

who wins who dies?

Like Morgan Freeman says "I have no idea"

will know on sunday

Just got back from seeing this. Lucy is a glass cannon until she reaches 100%, at which point she transcends a physical form. Pretty much nothing she can do to Manhattan.

I'm not sure if there is a point in putting Mahnattan in vs threads. As far as we know, he cant be hurt or stopped. I have yet to see Lucy, so I cant properly comment. Unless she gets into reality bending territory like him, she loses.

Well she does time travel, but in terms of matter/energy manipulation, Manhattan shits all over her.

Sahpuulurs!

Originally posted by Arachnid1
I'm not sure if there is a point in putting Mahnattan in vs threads. As far as we know, he cant be hurt or stopped. I have yet to see Lucy, so I cant properly comment. Unless she gets into reality bending territory like him, she loses.
Any decent telepath could shut him down. Same with soul rapists.

He's hardly the most powerful character in cinema.

telepathy didn't exist in "Watchmen", so you ave no evidence to support that claim... like, none. at all.

Originally posted by marwash22
telepathy didn't exist in "Watchmen", so you ave no evidence to support that claim... like, none. at all.
They didn't exist in Forrest Gump either, but you wouldn't claim Lieutenant Dan is immune to telepathy, would you?

LT Dan is a normal human so we could safely transfer his non-resistance to the likes of the X-Men franchise and such.

Manhattan not having a brain/mind in the conventional sense and being able to exist as energy alone probably makes him immune to Xavier and such.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Any decent telepath could shut him down. Same with soul rapists.

He's hardly the most powerful character in cinema.

kinda agree. He seems uber because he was the only one in that universe that had any real powers. He had no competition so he seemed godlike.
Granted he was real powerful though.

Originally posted by NemeBro
They didn't exist in Forrest Gump either, but you wouldn't claim Lieutenant Dan is immune to telepathy, would you?
stahp.

Originally posted by Robtard

Manhattan not having a brain/mind in the conventional sense and being able to exist as energy alone probably makes him immune to Xavier and such.
There is no reason to assume that.

Originally posted by NemeBro
They didn't exist in Forrest Gump either, but you wouldn't claim Lieutenant Dan is immune to telepathy, would you?

No, he has a point.

You're committing the limits fallacy. You're imposing an arbitrary limit to a character in which such a limit was not seen.

Manhattan could very well be susceptible to telepathy or mind rape. But he's such a powerful being, with his mind alone, that it would be a stretch and arbitrary to say he could be mind raped by any telepathic being who is not at the same omnipotence level or higher than Manhattan.

I doubt Manhattan can be mind-raped. Unlike the average person, who only has a limited number of things on their mind at a given time, Manhattan's mind is constantly perceiving every moment of his potentially infinite life at once. A telepath would probably get overwhelmed. Xavier had trouble holding onto Mystique and can be blocked by a material helmet. Pretty sure Manhattan would have some way to counter him, if he even registered at all.

yes. doc is weak to everything not used against him in the watchmen film. this is totally not fallacious thinking.

Just saw the movie. At this point, we do not know what she can do at 100 percent. What she possess seems to be all knowing and she is can be anything. There are talks of a possible sequel if tbis movie does well. One thing she has ovwr Manhattan is her humanity.

Originally posted by Lestov16
I doubt Manhattan can be mind-raped. Unlike the average person, who only has a limited number of things on their mind at a given time, Manhattan's mind is constantly perceiving every moment of his potentially infinite life at once. A telepath would probably get overwhelmed. Xavier had trouble holding onto Mystique and can be blocked by a material helmet. Pretty sure Manhattan would have some way to counter him, if he even registered at all.
Xavier isn't a very powerful telepath in the movies. Relatively speaking.

When did he have trouble controlling Mystique though?

Originally posted by dadudemon
No, he has a point.

You're committing the limits fallacy. You're imposing an arbitrary limit to a character in which such a limit was not seen.

Manhattan could very well be susceptible to telepathy or mind rape. But he's such a powerful being, with his mind alone, that it would be a stretch and arbitrary to say he could be mind raped by any telepathic being who is not at the same omnipotence level or higher than Manhattan.

I guess I would be if I said Joe Schmoe telepath who can telepathically control one guy would be.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
yes. doc is weak to everything not used against him in the watchmen film. this is totally not fallacious thinking.
Why should we assume resistances that were never shown?