H/P Doomsday, Pre-Crisis Solomon Grundy, & Pre-Crisis Validus vs Gorr, WBH, & Odin

Originally posted by quanchi112
Panthergod has done his same routine for years. He rarely comprehends anything will pull from other stories to try to argue his weak and desperate cases and pretend victory when the evidence is not portrayed like a Fox News or MSNBC show portrays politics. Extremely biased with an agenda.

Oh yes, ive figured that on my own. It's like he just posts random things and hopes he gets it right not unlike gambling. I think we should classify his posts as hit or miss. It's miss all the way until now but it'd be interesting how this goes from here.

Originally posted by operator616
Oh yes, ive figured that on my own. It's like he just posts random things and hopes he gets it right not unlike gambling. I think we should classify his posts as hit or miss. It's miss all the way until now but it'd be interesting how this goes from here.

This is the site he’s been on for years. He puts these long massive posts without anything really connecting but he will proclaim victory when it’s just a waste of time. It’s looney bin stuff. He’s someone you just pat on the head like Rudy getting a few tackles on college. This means the world to panthergod he’s just terrible at it and no one takes him seriously. He’s dishonest to himself and I fully believe he has convinced himself like a fanatic.

😂

This thread has been incredibly amusing.

It's dawned on me, that the posters most often debating Pre-Crisis DC character's, actually no very little about them.

And watching PG/Abhilgend being completely idiotic is a bonus. "Pre-Crisis Darkseid was THIS powerful because 40 years in the future, this happened with this specific item/character" but these same posters will call a feat from 10 years ago irrelevant even if it is directly referenced in the story.

I think, they might be on the autisic spectrum. Unable to understand the flow of time, is a telltale sign.

Originally posted by panthergod
Odin is a sadistic narcissist basket-case obsessed with demanding worship obedience and fealty. He's a fascistic nutcase who has inspired countless barbarian rape expeditions and human sacrifice rituals after all. He's tortured his son countless times in sickening 'tests' which simply demonstrate that he will never accept him. He's a nut-job tyrant with delusions of grandeur considering he's merely one of countless deities in the cosmos. Of course, being the myopic dictator he has always been, it makes sense that he is a being of utterly self absorbed insanity.

It's happened at least twice now.. keep pretending otherwise though.. 😂

Odin commands and demands respect and fealty. He does not demand worship and has denounced mankind's violent ways since the earliest days.

His tests on Thor are harsh but not cruel, and never anything beyond his ability to accomplish. He pushes his son to become a better, and more humble God, so that he could better serve the Nine Realms when ascending to the throne. He has shown on many occasions that he loves his son, but puts the duty of the throne first. Odin was the personification of a just society. Harsh and judgement but loving, sympathetic and caring.

Your post is a bunch of nonsensical words put together that make no sense, and are not supported by anything stepped in canon. Are you sure you're not Jason Aaron?

You harping on Jane vs. Odin, shows how desperate you are. When is the second time?

Originally posted by panthergod
Another lie.

Actually, Kirby's protege Mark Evanier established that Orion, like all New Gods had a celestial/cosmic aspect beyond his standard manifestation in mortal realms:

https://imgur.com/a/mSsPCS3

Wrong again ignoramus.

This is amazing btw. He said he was a God and showing a cosmic aspect. That's nice word play, but....if I posted the same for Odin, or even Thor, you'd just argue it's meaningless.

Such a hypocrite.

Can't we all just get along?

Carver and I have made up and agreed in this very thread.

Originally posted by operator616
Are you trolling me? Because if you're serious you need to get to a mental institution ASAP.

How is it a metaphor? Because you say so?

GTFO idiot.

I was letting this go but somebody had to shut up this marvel zombie.

Originally posted by operator616
Oh yeah, im shaking in my boots. If there's anything im running from it's your red herrings, non-sequiturs, and outright half-arsed arguments which i already addressed four years ago.

But you want to have a real debate panthergod? Fine. Let's analyze this in details.

In Forever People vol. 1, Darkseid's only notable achievement is imprisoning Infinity man. He also managed to bfr the forever people but unfortunately he got threatened by moonrider's megaton touch, by his own admission:

http://i.imgur.com/Sv4RA1n.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/AGrpKUL.jpg

Let's see by your own logic, Loki outright telling Odin that he is weaker than Thor and doesn't has a chance of stopping Thor.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QuQ-bsM2MDE/VnfLVk3pPDI/AAAAAAAAWcM/WGDkm7G4asE/s1600-Ic42/RCO008.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-A23-fp85yYg/VnfLVwth5BI/AAAAAAAAWcA/-HTEnJzOJ8o/s1600-Ic42/RCO009.jpg

In Mister Miracle vol. 1 Darkseid never did anything impressive that i recall of.

Then we have, New Gods vol. 1, ah that's where all the goodies come in. We learn of the New genesis/Apokolips war and how Darkseid desperately needed the boom tube space warp technology for his army:

https://imgur.com/wweMbeo

Like Odin saying he can't control time, wouldn't you say.

But Darkseid has the ability to create space warps!!! Right? 🙄

Right, he has never moved planets after.

https://s7.postimg.cc/l708o8vxn/image.jpg

But I like how he gained new powers because you said so.

Darkseid had a few highlights in the series, like killing/resurrecting Desaad with OB, resurrecting one of the deep six, empowering beldam with a fraction of his power who handles orion, but the series (and really, the other NG comics too) revolved around Darkseid trying to obtain the ALE from the minds of 6 earth individuals. Here, look at good ol' darkseid using desaad's mind probe tech to delve into a regular human's mind:

https://imgur.com/ekTGLMm

And yet you're trying to convince me that Darkseid can mindrape entire populations? 😂

Retconned in DOTNG.

So he gained teleportation and TP randomly by draining some mystical items, Mordru and Controller?

How randomly assigned.

....but it gets better and better for Darkseid. Even when he obtains the full ALE, he confronts HF, who was completely drained. This is the HF he is facing:

https://imgur.com/i2R4zUj

And yet, this powerless HF and orion manage to defeat Darkseid with the ALE in Adventure Comics #460, and Darkseid gets vaporized into oblivion by desaad's uni-cannon to boot.

http://i.imgur.com/3l8qRbG.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CUJrvjW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ARjVYt5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DcsQfnM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Bfft3dH.jpg

Right, weakened Darkseid was distracted by Orion and entombed in Source Wall.

Weakened Odin gets koed by a sonic attack.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5-KoePAc9Fc/Vnpm8BJs9bI/AAAAAAAASNE/GOK9OyPthp4/s1600-Ic42/RCO004.jpg

This guy is supposed to be a skyfather?

In Super Society of Super-Villains, Darkseid had a good showing against GL Mantis and black racer, but nothing skyfather-level.

He then resurfaced in a JLA story where he got punked by Firestorm and destroyed by the re-creation machine:

https://imgur.com/tFjhPzy
https://imgur.com/TOyPiGq
https://imgur.com/tv3qjfM

Right, random trolls punk Odin like their whore by random machines created by Orikal.

http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Thor-1966/Issue-139?id=7684

Odin was actually crying for Thor to save him.

in that same story, Fiddler mindraped your entire precious new genesis population:

https://imgur.com/ME9Vlot

How powerful is fiddler? Well, golden age Jay resisted his mind shenanigans back in the early All flash comics, pre-crisis. And in barry's pre-Crisis title once, then also in wally's post-Crisis series and in another one-shot post-Crisis issue since you like bringing post-Crisis so much.

Right, like space ants beating Odin AND Asgard and selling them as slaves.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GGDnF-cMNZM/Vnpmem1OKzI/AAAAAAAASEE/_3ci4OxV5Nc/s1600-Ic42/RCO012.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-76Vl54mFb4w/VnpmfXKTLvI/AAAAAAAASEE/VcchyUF2FiM/s1600-Ic42/RCO015.jpg

Let's no even mention Hunger Dogs, although it's non-canon for post-Crisis new gods, it's canon for pre-Crisis new gods, if we're making the pre and post distinction. Darkseid was running away from a rebellion in Apokolips in that story.

Non canon stuff.

Regarding GDS:

Must i repeat the fact that he said "i am fulfilled" when he absorbed the orb (he also previously absorbed Excalibur):

http://i.imgur.com/VHWy56Y.jpg?1

And the bio confirms that it's the necessary power level that he wanted.

http://i.imgur.com/IPMIBpA.jpg?1

Which can either be that he got his full power back or that he obtained even more than his full power. Either way, Darkseid was at least full power at that point. And after that he stole Mordru's powers:

http://i.imgur.com/iXAIYQO.jpg

And TT's (revealed to be a controller in Legionnaires 3):

http://i.imgur.com/yOJEwjg.jpg

You call that not amped?

No, as he himself realized his power had waned over time.

Why would he say that when instead he was getting new powers as you say?

the bios: in GDS, Darkseid amped himself to a point where he could become a TT level foe (not to mention that's a 1988 bio and TT later had more feats)
There's a similar statement in an '87 bio; which also states that he's a peer of Darkseid, but goes on to say that his personal abilities are not known:

http://i.imgur.com/o2LLkVG.jpg?1

They are classifying them on a threat-basis. And Darkseid was amped anyway

No, he wasn't. White Witch also said Darkseid power was comparable to Infinite Man as well.

And that's it! im done. I mean, Darkseid is lucky to qualify as a trans-leveler, many of his showings are quite shitty and an average portrayal clearly has him far below GDS levels. You wanted a counter-argument, now you've got it. Your turn now.

Is that all you got marvel zombie?

We've had these Odin lowballing discussions tons of times, so im not going to entertain them.

What you're not getting through that half-witted skull of yours is that PC Darkseid has roughly 50/60 appearances, meanwhile odin has hundreds, and they still roughly have the same amount of low showings.

What's even more relevant is that PC Darkseid has nowhere near the highs Odin has. Even with GDS. Odin has destroyed galaxies as a side effect of his fights, and contained universe destroying energies. Darkseid doesn't even come close. But i don't expect you to understand basic stuff since even the most obvious metaphors is lost on you.

You can go back to bizarro world now. Panthergod is waiting for you there so you can give each other a good jerk off while fantasizing about superman.

Originally posted by operator616
We've had these Odin lowballing discussions tons of times, so im not going to entertain them.

What you're not getting through that half-witted skull of yours is that PC Darkseid has roughly 50/60 appearances, meanwhile odin has hundreds, and they still roughly have the same amount of low showings.

Odin having more appearances than Darkseid has no bearing here.

What's even more relevant is that PC Darkseid has nowhere near the highs Odin has. Even with GDS. Odin has destroyed galaxies as a side effect of his fights

Never did. Marvel handbooks explicitly stated that his fight with Infinity only destroyed planets.

, and contained universe destroying energies. Darkseid doesn't even come close. But i don't expect you to understand basic stuff since even the most obvious metaphors is lost on you.

Even Orion can contain energies of actual universe destroying oblivion bomb.

Surtur fire didn't even destroy old Asgard much less entire universe.

You can go back to bizarro world now. Panthergod is waiting for you there so you can give each other a good jerk off while fantasizing about superman.

😂

You're so offended by anything related to Odin.

Have you swallowed your daily dose of gungnir today?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
This thread has been incredibly amusing.

It's dawned on me, that the posters most often debating Pre-Crisis DC character's, actually no very little about them.

And watching PG/Abhilgend being completely idiotic is a bonus. "Pre-Crisis Darkseid was THIS powerful because 40 years in the future, this happened with this specific item/character" but these same posters will call a feat from 10 years ago irrelevant even if it is directly referenced in the story.

I think, they might be on the autisic spectrum. Unable to understand the flow of time, is a telltale sign.

Originally posted by operator616
We've had these Odin lowballing discussions tons of times, so im not going to entertain them.

What you're not getting through that half-witted skull of yours is that PC Darkseid has roughly 50/60 appearances, meanwhile odin has hundreds, and they still roughly have the same amount of low showings.

What's even more relevant is that PC Darkseid has nowhere near the highs Odin has. Even with GDS. Odin has destroyed galaxies as a side effect of his fights, and contained universe destroying energies. Darkseid doesn't even come close. But i don't expect you to understand basic stuff since even the most obvious metaphors is lost on you.

You can go back to bizarro world now. Panthergod is waiting for you there so you can give each other a good jerk off while fantasizing about superman.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This thread has become legendary and the beat down operator put on the dc fanboys will live on in the annals of kmc history.

👆

Expect another beat down in 3-4 years when abhi bumps this thread yet again.

Originally posted by operator616
👆

Expect another beat down in 3-4 years when abhi bumps this thread yet again.

This isn't enough for you?

Originally posted by abhilegend
For what? To humiliate you again?

This isn't enough for you?

Nah. Your posts just don't warrant a response at this point.

You've become a joke now, is what im trying to say.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
For what? To humiliate you again?

This isn't enough for you?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Odin having more appearances than Darkseid has no bearing here.

Never did. Marvel handbooks explicitly stated that his fight with Infinity only destroyed planets.

Even Orion can contain energies of actual universe destroying oblivion bomb.

Surtur fire didn't even destroy old Asgard much less entire universe.

😂

You're so offended by anything related to Odin.

Have you swallowed your daily dose of gungnir today?

- Orion can contain a Universal bomb because it was said.
- Odin easily shunted Surtur's accumulated power (Enough to destroy realities) but it doesn't count because Odin shunted the energies to the Asgardian dimension where it would it be carefully contained and burn out?

Originally posted by operator616
Nah. Your posts just don't warrant a response at this point.

You've become a joke now, is what im trying to say.

Run along with your fellow marvel retards.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
- Orion can contain a Universal bomb because it was said.

- Odin easily shunted Surtur's accumulated power (Enough to destroy realities) but it doesn't count because Odin shunted the energies to the Asgardian dimension where it would it be carefully contained and burn out?

It was said to be only enough to burn nine realms who are pocket realities.

Surtur wasn't contained in the asgardian realm and neither was he burnt out. It did not even burn Asgard forget about entire universe.

Lol.

Abhi getting all Skurge here. 'I'll take you all on!!!!!'