H/P Doomsday, Pre-Crisis Solomon Grundy, & Pre-Crisis Validus vs Gorr, WBH, & Odin

Started by quanchi11217 pages

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
- Orion can contain a Universal bomb because it was said.
- Odin easily shunted Surtur's accumulated power (Enough to destroy realities) but it doesn't count because Odin shunted the energies to the Asgardian dimension where it would it be carefully contained and burn out?
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Originally posted by abhilegend
And shown.

It was said to be only enough to burn nine realms who are pocket realities.

Surtur wasn't contained in the asgardian realm and neither was he burnt out. It did not even burn Asgard forget about entire universe.

No, as established conclusively by Matt Fraction, the Nine Realms are each full fledge Universes, and the World Tree is connected to an infinite number of Univeses, a Multiverse. They are separate realms, that even undergo Entropy and destruction.

You have literally had this scans posted for you multiple times. It's annoying AF that your dumbass has to constantly be corrected.

What does that mean? Surtur died, Odin safely shunted his energies into the Asgardian dimension where they would be safely contained.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
No, as established conclusively by Matt Fraction, the Nine Realms are each full fledge Universes, and the World Tree is connected to an infinite number of Univeses, a Multiverse. They are separate realms, that even undergo Entropy and destruction.

No, that was just a theory of the scientist. If World Tree was connected to the multiverse Surtur wouldn't have to use Otherworld to burn down the multiverse.

Asgard was most definitely just a pocket reality at that point.

You have literally had this scans posted for you multiple times. It's annoying AF that your dumbass has to constantly be corrected.

Shut up dimwit if you can't understand simple things.

What does that mean? Surtur died, Odin safely shunted his energies into the Asgardian dimension where they would be safely contained.

And those didn't even destroy old Asgard which was only continental size.

Forget about universal level.

Double standards oh Abhi you’re so transparent and fool no one save yourself.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, that was just a theory of the scientist. If World Tree was connected to the multiverse Surtur wouldn't have to use Otherworld to burn down the multiverse.

Asgard was most definitely just a pocket reality at that point.

Shut up dimwit if you can't understand simple things.

And those didn't even destroy old Asgard which was only continental size.

Forget about universal level.

I don't know who's worse, Thor or Dragon Ball fans.

We have a map of the entire universe, and a million kilometer road stretch halfway across.. The entire universe is 2 million kilometers across at most. Same deal as your Asgard reference.

Originally posted by cdtm
I don't know who's worse, Thor or Dragon Ball fans.

We have a map of the entire universe, and a million kilometer road stretch halfway across.. The entire universe is 2 million kilometers across at most. Same deal as your Asgard reference.

Everybody knows that the asgardian landmass is continent-sized, but it is located in asgard-space which is a fully fledged universe. Not all writers portray it as such but many do, it's just like new genesis and apokolips. There have been various writers who've portrayed them as being located it in a separate cosmos, sometimes a separate solar system.

And it's not just fraction who portrayed them as being in a separate universe, many writers of thor comics have at one point on another. (ive posted this before) JIM #94, 95, thor #179, #290, #304, #331, v2 #36 annual #10, #329, 383, v2 #1, 14, Siege #1 have all depicted asgard-space as a dimension (with stars and all) beyond time/space. Fraction just confirmed what was previously highly implied -- that it's a fully fledged universe.

Originally posted by operator616
Everybody knows that the asgardian landmass is continent-sized, but it is located in asgard-space which is a fully fledged universe. Not all writers portray it as such but many do, it's just like new genesis and apokolips. There have been various writers who've portrayed them as being located it in a separate cosmos, sometimes a separate solar system.

And it's not just fraction who portrayed them as being in a separate universe, many writers of thor comics have at one point on another. (ive posted this before) JIM #94, 95, thor #179, #290, #304, #331, v2 #36 annual #10, #329, 383, v2 #1, 14, Siege #1 have all depicted asgard-space as a dimension (with stars and all) beyond time/space. Fraction just confirmed what was previously highly implied -- that it's a fully fledged universe.

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Originally posted by cdtm
I don't know who's worse, Thor or Dragon Ball fans.

We have a map of the entire universe, and a million kilometer road stretch halfway across.. The entire universe is 2 million kilometers across at most. Same deal as your Asgard reference.

You're speaking out of ignorance, shut up.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, that was just a theory of the scientist. If World Tree was connected to the multiverse Surtur wouldn't have to use Otherworld to burn down the multiverse.

Asgard was most definitely just a pocket reality at that point.

Shut up dimwit if you can't understand simple things.

And those didn't even destroy old Asgard which was only continental size.

Forget about universal level.

It wasn't a theory of a scientist, it was flat out stated, and then CONFIRMED, when Asgard was removed from Asgard-Space, and a NEW Universe of Dark Gods invaded Midgard to take control, because their Universe was old and suffering Entropic death like a full fledged Universe would.

Asgard the city, is a continent/planet etc. Asgard-Space, is it's own dimension/Universe.

There was FURTHER confirmed when Amora directly attacked the foundations of the World Tree, and she was killing EVERYTHING, all realities, the end of all things.

I'd post scans, but I can't be bothered to do all that work only for your dumbass. If anyone else is interested, let me know, and I'll upload them.

He also established that Odin and the Serpent are older than the current cycle of creation, similar to Galactus, and their duty is to protect the World Seed, to usher in the new cycle of creation.

Fun fact that I forgot about: Odin's dark counterpart, staved off the Entropic death of his Universe through sheer force of will.

I can't believe Abhilegend called it the scientists "theory". Here the scientist describes the Nine Worlds "theory" that he also mentions he has the "science to support":
https://s31.postimg.cc/6m2x2l65n/RCO0031.jpg
https://s31.postimg.cc/tnji8cdiz/RCO0041.jpg
https://s31.postimg.cc/rvqjdf70r/RCO0051.jpg

This "theory" was the main plot of his first story-line, and the explanation for the new Dark Gods:
https://s31.postimg.cc/aig8yleaj/RCO008.jpg
https://s31.postimg.cc/44r5vare3/RCO009.jpg
https://s31.postimg.cc/m7k8miuyj/RCO010.jpg
https://s31.postimg.cc/3rzrp4w9n/RCO011.jpg
https://s31.postimg.cc/9sxgm8617/RCO012.jpg

https://s31.postimg.cc/814hrc23v/RCO0111.jpg

Btw, that right above is an awesome feat you should note Operator616. Odin's dark counterpart, through sheer will kept his Universe's entropic death at bay, and willed it's destruction.

I also mentioned Bor and his sons being older than this Universe, which was first mentioned here:
https://s31.postimg.cc/pr66cbaiz/RCO003.jpg
https://s31.postimg.cc/sl9bprkez/RCO004.jpg

Odin at his high-end, is so far beyond Doomsday and all these clowns, it's not even a fight.

As an aside, Enchantress just attacking the World Tree was destroying all of creation. Loki even says thousands of realities were smashing against each other and it is confirmed that the World Tree is at the center of the Universe:

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I can't believe Abhilegend called it the scientists "theory". Here the scientist describes the Nine Worlds "theory" that he also mentions he has the "science to support":
https://s31.postimg.cc/6m2x2l65n/RCO0031.jpg
https://s31.postimg.cc/tnji8cdiz/RCO0041.jpg
https://s31.postimg.cc/rvqjdf70r/RCO0051.jpg

This "theory" was the main plot of his first story-line, and the explanation for the new Dark Gods:
https://s31.postimg.cc/aig8yleaj/RCO008.jpg
https://s31.postimg.cc/44r5vare3/RCO009.jpg
https://s31.postimg.cc/m7k8miuyj/RCO010.jpg
https://s31.postimg.cc/3rzrp4w9n/RCO011.jpg
https://s31.postimg.cc/9sxgm8617/RCO012.jpg

https://s31.postimg.cc/814hrc23v/RCO0111.jpg

Btw, that right above is an awesome feat you should note Operator616. Odin's dark counterpart, through sheer will kept his Universe's entropic death at bay, and willed it's destruction.

I also mentioned Bor and his sons being older than this Universe, which was first mentioned here:
https://s31.postimg.cc/pr66cbaiz/RCO003.jpg
https://s31.postimg.cc/sl9bprkez/RCO004.jpg

Odin at his high-end, is so far beyond Doomsday and all these clowns, it's not even a fight.

👆

These guys are the worst. They constantly spout their bullshit loud and repeatedly, and think that means they are in the right. The Asgardian mythos shits all over their favorite toys except the New Gods and the Fourth World, which is the off-spring of the Asgardian mythos ala Kirby. So even the part that can compete or surpass, is just the bastard child of classic Asgard.

I think the reason extreme Superman fans dislike Thor so much is because of the annoyance they get when writers write a good Thor. As seen with Ragnarok and IW, with proper direction God of Thunder > Man of Steel. 😉

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I can't believe Abhilegend called it the scientists "theory". Here the scientist describes the Nine Worlds "theory" that he also mentions he has the "science to support":
https://s31.postimg.cc/6m2x2l65n/RCO0031.jpg
https://s31.postimg.cc/tnji8cdiz/RCO0041.jpg
https://s31.postimg.cc/rvqjdf70r/RCO0051.jpg

This "theory" was the main plot of his first story-line, and the explanation for the new Dark Gods:
https://s31.postimg.cc/aig8yleaj/RCO008.jpg
https://s31.postimg.cc/44r5vare3/RCO009.jpg
https://s31.postimg.cc/m7k8miuyj/RCO010.jpg
https://s31.postimg.cc/3rzrp4w9n/RCO011.jpg
https://s31.postimg.cc/9sxgm8617/RCO012.jpg

https://s31.postimg.cc/814hrc23v/RCO0111.jpg

Btw, that right above is an awesome feat you should note Operator616. Odin's dark counterpart, through sheer will kept his Universe's entropic death at bay, and willed it's destruction.

I also mentioned Bor and his sons being older than this Universe, which was first mentioned here:
https://s31.postimg.cc/pr66cbaiz/RCO003.jpg
https://s31.postimg.cc/sl9bprkez/RCO004.jpg

Odin at his high-end, is so far beyond Doomsday and all these clowns, it's not even a fight.

As an aside, Enchantress just attacking the World Tree was destroying all of creation. Loki even says thousands of realities were smashing against each other and it is confirmed that the World Tree is at the center of the Universe:

👆 While i may have mentioned only 2 feats for Odin in the previous page, remember rage that we covered all of this 4 years ago in details in this very thread. Odin has more than a dozen galaxy+ level feats (or battles against galactic+ level beings), they're mentioned on this page for anyone who's interested:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=599170&pagenumber=6

Odin literally shits on these 3 weaklings. But i have given up trying to talk some sense into abhi. It's literally like talking to a wall.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
These guys are the worst. They constantly spout their bullshit loud and repeatedly, and think that means they are in the right. The Asgardian mythos shits all over their favorite toys except the New Gods and the Fourth World, which is the off-spring of the Asgardian mythos ala Kirby. So even the part that can compete or surpass, is just the bastard child of classic Asgard.

I think the reason extreme Superman fans dislike Thor so much is because of the annoyance they get when writers write a good Thor. As seen with Ragnarok and IW, with proper direction God of Thunder > Man of Steel. 😉

Thor is definitely far superior in cinema to Superman. Better feats, more experience, better weapons, tougher opponents, and the true spirit of a hero.

Agreed.

Originally posted by carver9
Agreed.
The War is over. MCU won in a landslide.

It took the entire JLA to fight a villain Thor or Hulk could've dropped solo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The War is over. MCU won in a landslide.

I heard that IW has become the biggest Hollywood grosser in Indian history (abhi's country, i hear). The guy must be on the edge of an emotional and mental breakdown right now.

operator is savage.

Lololol