LOL This is ridiculous. The UN called for a ceasefire that was to begin 1:00 am EST this morning. Already it has collapsed
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/02/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-conflict.html?_r=0
In an ideal world, Israel and Hamas would forge a real ceasefire brokered by the UN, Palestinian Authority, Arab League, and USA and the terms of this ceasefire would be the unconditional disarmament of Hamas and the unconditional withdrawal of all Israeli settlers from Palestinian land (what constitutes Palestinian land might take a lot of debating, but the simplest way would be to revert the borders back to pre-1948 dimensions) and the return of both Palestine and Israel to John Kerry's peace treaty negotiations with the final aim of making Palestine a genuine country recognized by the entirety of the UN.
At this point I have no idea how Israel thinks it will be safer and more secure with Palestine not as a real centralized country with international recognition.
Originally posted by Robtard
Would the proper response for a native American descendent be to start firing explosive tipped arrows into American households because that land the house was built on at one point in time belonged to one of his ancestors? The obvious answer is no.The Palestinians need to collectively suppress their hatred toward Israel/Jews, come together as one and shit-stomp Hamas out of existence. Hamas is the greater enemy to Palestinians, hiding weapon caches in schools and hospitals, rockets missing the intended Israeli targets and hitting Palestinian homes etc. IF they did that, they would show the world that they want a peaceful coexistence with Israel and Israel's hand would [likely] be forced by international pressure to not be dicks.
But that's not going to happen, Hamas will continue to fire rockets and use Palestinian children as meat shields so when Israel targets weapon bunkers, the children casualties can then be used as propaganda by Hamas. /endrant
Originally posted by NemeBro
It is true that black culture is morally bankrupt and inherently destructive. 👆
Originally posted by Lek Kuen
It's how we get white women
I lol'd.
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Originally posted by Robtard
Would the proper response for a native American descendent be to start firing explosive tipped arrows into American households because that land the house was built on at one point in time belonged to one of his ancestors? The obvious answer is no.The Palestinians need to collectively suppress their hatred toward Israel/Jews, come together as one and shit-stomp Hamas out of existence. Hamas is the greater enemy to Palestinians, hiding weapon caches in schools and hospitals, rockets missing the intended Israeli targets and hitting Palestinian homes etc. IF they did that, they would show the world that they want a peaceful coexistence with Israel and Israel's hand would [likely] be forced by international pressure to not be dicks.
But that's not going to happen, Hamas will continue to fire rockets and use Palestinian children as meat shields so when Israel targets weapon bunkers, the children casualties can then be used as propaganda by Hamas. /endrant
A Palestinian revolt on Hamas sounds like a good idea and a practical one in a perfect world. Easier said than done though.
If the Palestinians were to turn on Hamas, that would anger all the extremists and on a larger scale, this might anger the overall Arab-Muslim population and endanger the Palestinians even more.
In their position at the moment, they can't afford that, and neither can we, being Iran and other extremist countries are just itching for their perfect excuse to storm the Israeli bastions as WW3 becomes an open door where anyone would and most likely would participate.
Now THIS is really something.
Originally posted by dadudemonIf you're really being sincere, I greatly think you should kill yourself before you get any worse.
The older I get, the more I think Arabs have a genetic predisposition towards "losing their shit." More so than other peoples.
Originally posted by dadudemonThey're also the most hated people on Earth. hmm What did Yoda say?
They may not be the angriest but they are one of the angriest people on the planet.
Originally posted by dadudemonCan't see why, damning an entire culture shouldn't be taboo, right?
Basically, I'm saying I don't think it is completely learned.But saying stuff like this is considered taboo. Trying to study stuff like this is generally considered taboo, as well.
Originally posted by dadudemonThey're two completely different species, not what you suggest. 😐
And yet, our closet animal relatives, Chimpanzees, show us that their behaviors can vary wildly (Bonobos and Chimps are closely related and can produce fertile offspring but Bonobos are much more peaceful (thought not perfectly) than the common Chimps).So why would not similar things occur among humans? Why are we immune from behavioral variations similar to Chimps?
Originally posted by dadudemonMore nonsensical generalisation.
My personal opinion is it comes from both sides in the scientific community (on why these taboo topics are not really studied): the liberals find it offensive and racist to study such subjects and the conservatives find it offends their sense of responsibility.
Originally posted by dadudemonIt'd be nice to see this study to have an idea of when it was made, at least. (By the way, I said when, not where, and I don't mean where because I said when.) Seems like an odd comparison considering one study seeks to damn a culture and the other study questions abhorent behaviour.
Before I'm accused of being a wacko, look at the backlash against the studying done about rapists and how rapists were clearly different than normal people (which partially supported a hypothesis that rapists may not be as in control of their behavior as others).
Originally posted by Fallschirmjäger
A Palestinian revolt on Hamas sounds like a good idea and a practical one in a perfect world. Easier said than done though.If the Palestinians were to turn on Hamas, that would anger [B]all
the extremists and on a larger scale, this might anger the overall Arab-Muslim population and endanger the Palestinians even more.In their position at the moment, they can't afford that, and neither can we, being Iran and other extremist countries are just itching for their perfect excuse to storm the Israeli bastions as WW3 becomes an open door where anyone would and most likely would participate. [/B]
I wasn't implying it would be easy, it would be large numbers of people having to come together and entering a bloodbath against their supposed allies. I don't see it happening, unfortunately. But there will be no chance of actual peace while Hamas exist.
The rest of the Arab/Muslim world really doesn't give a single wet smelly shit about Palestine/Palestinians, they're little more than a reason to rant against Israel and the US/The West when it's convenient. If they did, they'd take in the diaspora and feed/shelter their Islamic brothers and sisters. It's similar with the US's view of Afghanistan's plight in the 80's, "we" cared about them because they were fighting against the U.S.S.R.
Israel proved in October of 1973 that it can single handily take on multiple opponents. Since the 70's, Israel has become more powerful than those other countries. None of the major players (US, China, UK, Russia) want a WW3, too much money to be lost; don't see it happening in the current climate.
Originally posted by Robtard
The rest of the Arab/Muslim world really doesn't give a single wet smelly shit about Palestine/Palestinians, they're little more than a reason to rant against Israel and the US/The West when it's convenient. If they did, they'd take in the diaspora and feed/shelter their Islamic brothers and sisters. It's similar with the US's view of Afghanistan's plight in the 80's, "we" cared about them because they were fighting against the U.S.S.R.
^ This is really what I was thinking, too. Palestine's allies in the Middle East are lukewarm at best.
Originally posted by dadudemon
The older I get, the more I think Arabs have a genetic predisposition towards "losing their shit." More so than other peoples.They may not be the angriest but they are one of the angriest people on the planet.
Basically, I'm saying I don't think it is completely learned.
But saying stuff like this is considered taboo. Trying to study stuff like this is generally considered taboo, as well.
And yet, our closet animal relatives, Chimpanzees, show us that their behaviors can vary wildly (Bonobos and Chimps are closely related and can produce fertile offspring but Bonobos are much more peaceful (thought not perfectly) than the common Chimps).
So why would not similar things occur among humans? Why are we immune from behavioral variations similar to Chimps?
My personal opinion is it comes from both sides in the scientific community (on why these taboo topics are not really studied): the liberals find it offensive and racist to study such subjects and the conservatives find it offends their sense of responsibility.
Before I'm accused of being a wacko, look at the backlash against the studying done about rapists and how rapists were clearly different than normal people (which partially supported a hypothesis that rapists may not be as in control of their behavior as others).