Talzin and Maul vs Sidious and Dooku

Fight takes place in the same area as in Som of Dathomir issue 4.

No Grevious to get in the way here, who wins?

IMO, Maul holds off Sidious a-la Mandalore, and Talzin rapes Dooku with Force drain before turning to Sidious.

Using Mauls power she overwhelms his Lightning and that's that.

But interested to see y'all's thoughts.

Sidious speedblitz them both lol jk. interesting match up. i'll need to finish the issue before i make a call though.

Talzin has solidified herself as the #3 of the era with her feats. Very impressive.

Team 2

I'm leaning team two. Talzin seemed to not think they would hold out for much longer, even before Grievous stepped in.

Sidious > Talzin, Dooku > Maul. Team Human ftw.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
I'm leaning team two. Talzin seemed to not think they would hold out for much longer, even before Grievous stepped in.

👆 Emperor pretty much said everything i wanted to say. team two takes the victory.

team 1 only can win via prep time, a voodoo spell on sidious or another trick, talzin can't take sidious alone as we see in last chapter,

though maul can defeat dooku but as i said, sidious is the problem here.

Originally posted by Marco1907
though maul can defeat dooku

Possible, but unlikely

Why can't Talzin take on Sidious? She sort of just did.

And yes she said they couldn't last longer, but they would never have gotten ino that bad of a position had Grevious not distracted Maul...

Not sure what the point of this is when Team 2 was just shown as being the superior team....

Originally posted by Trocity
Possible, but unlikely

Maul has serious advantages, unless Dooku shoots him via force lightning (I am sure Maul can deflect it with lightsaber) I don't see Dooku is winning.

Dooku's makashi is weak against physical attacks, and physical attacks in mid duel is Maul's speciality.

As for TK, I don't see Dooku beating him via TK either, Maul's TK powers has grown powerful in TCW as well.

You can see my expansive analyse at my signature.

Originally posted by ares834
Not sure what the point of this is when Team 2 was just shown as being the superior team....

Again, because Grevious took Maul out of the picture for a while and allowed Talzin to lose the tactical advantage.

If she hadn't got in a position where Sidious and Dooku were both pumelling her with Lighting they could have won.
Maybe.

Team 1 can only win with preparation.

While Maul was taking care of Greivous Dooku was still recovering from being hit by lightning. Ultimately, Maul helps Talzin before Dooku helps Sidious.

Originally posted by Marco1907
Maul has serious advantages, unless Dooku shoots him via force lightning (I am sure Maul can deflect it with lightsaber) I don't see Dooku is winning.

Does Maul actually have a lightsaber though? If he's using the Darksaber.....

Originally posted by Marco1907
Dooku's makashi is weak against physical attacks, and physical attacks in mid duel is Maul's speciality.

Nah, it's not "weak" to it. And Dooku has the speed advantage regardless.

Originally posted by Marco1907
As for TK, I don't see Dooku beating him via TK either, Maul's TK powers has grown powerful in TCW as well.

You can see my expansive analyse at my signature.

Dooku still has the edge there.

@Nephthys

Dooku & Maul's speed feats are matches. Dooku is not faster than Maul.

Dooku went head to head with Yoda, whereas Sidious toyed with Maul. Maul isn't even faster than Obi-Wan, who the Count is faster than by all accounts.

Dooku was always able to casually get rid of Obi-Wan, whereas Maul wasn't always able to force own him.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Dooku went head to head with Yoda, whereas Sidious toyed with Maul. Maul isn't even faster than Obi-Wan, who the Count is faster than by all accounts.

Lol. Yoda didn't toyed with Dooku but Sidious toyed with Maul ?

Alright.

And who said Maul is not faster than Obi-Wan ?

Originally posted by Nalaniel
Dooku was always able to casually get rid of Obi-Wan, whereas Maul wasn't always able to force own him.

Obi-Wan has no tool to threat Dooku, Obi-Wan's defensive technique (soresu) is completely useless against Dooku's fencing style (makashi).

Which is why, Anakin defeated Dooku but failed at Obi-Wan, while Obi-Wan failed at Dooku but defeated Anakin.