Count Dooku Vs Darth Zannah

Started by Fated Xtasy7 pages
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
No. Revan drew on Meetra's power to counter the draining, not to battle Vitiate's mental war. The mental war he did alone in his mind.

That's bull and you know it.

"Meetra was allowing Revan to feed off her. Her sustenance strengthened his resolve whenever he grew weak, refreshing and restoring him so he could continue his never-ending mental war."
- Star Wars: Revan

Edit. How about adding that to your respect thread.

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
That's bull and you know it.

"Meetra was allowing Revan to feed off her. Her sustenance strengthened his resolve whenever he grew weak, refreshing and restoring him so he could continue his never-ending mental war."
- Star Wars: Revan


No, it's not bull. He fed off her to refresh and restore him from the energy lost from the Sith Emperor's drain. Learn your lore before trying to argue otherwise. 😬

"The answers [of the information about the Jedi] were all there, but Revan would not surrender them easily. Though he was physically helpless, mentally he was strong enough to wage war against the Emperor, guarding his secrets for however long it might take. And Revan knew something the Emperor did not. The connection between them went both ways. There were brief moments-times when the Emperor was intently focused on something else-when he could subvert their relationship of planting seeds [of the fear of death and loss of power] in the Emperor's thoughts."
―Star Wars The Old Republic: Revan

"For the next three hundred years, the Emperor probed the Jedi’s mind, learning of the existence of a powerful space station. But the Jedi was powerful, and resisted the Emperor’s repeated attempts to learn its location. After three centuries, the Jedi escapes from his stasis."
―Star Wars The Old Republic Official Website

"Each [Revan and the Foundry] could dominate worlds...The Emperor sought to pry the Foundry's location from the Jedi's mind. But for centuries he resisted."
―Darth Malgus (Star Wars The Old Republic)

"The Emperor had three hundred years to break this man...and he never succumbed?"
―Dark Side Playable Character (Star Wars The Old Republic)

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
No, it's not bull. He fed off her to refresh and restore him from the energy lost from the Sith Emperor's drain.

[b]"The answers [of the information about the Jedi] were all there, but Revan would not surrender them easily. Though he was physically helpless, mentally he was strong enough to wage war agains the Emperor, guarding his secrets for however long it might take. And Revan knew something the Emperor did not. The connection between them went both ways. There were brief moments-times when the Emperor was intently focused on something else-when he could subvert their relationship of planting seeds [of the fear of death and loss of power] in the Emperor's thoughts."
―Star Wars The Old Republic: Revan

"For the next three hundred years, the Emperor probed the Jedi’s mind, learning of the existence of a powerful space station. But the Jedi was powerful, and resisted the Emperor’s repeated attempts to learn its location. After three centuries, the Jedi escapes from his stasis."
―Star Wars The Old Republic Official Website

"Each [Revan and the Foundry] could dominate worlds...The Emperor sought to pry the Foundry's location from the Jedi's mind. But for centuries he resisted."
―Darth Malgus (Star Wars The Old Republic)

"The Emperor had three hundred years to break this man...and he never succumbed?"
―Dark Side Playable Character (Star Wars The Old Republic) [/B]

She fed him her power, allowed him to feed off her so that He could accomplish all of this. nothing in there states otherwise. and even if it did, he needed her to replenish his strength otherwise it would have been impossible.

He could accomplish the mental feat itself. She allowed Revan to feed off her power because otherwise Revan would grow weak and die from Force Drain.

Originally posted by Nephthys
*snip for how your opinions overrides everything and every quote posted so far*

Even if I wanted to admit Bane is better than Dooku, which I'm not, Zannah isn't on Bane's level, which seems to be what your argument revolves around. Her illusions are the only thing that even let her compete, and even they required a shit ton of time and energy, nexus or otherwise, to use. She barely approaches him in sabers, let alone in the Force, where he's constantly overpowering her.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
He could accomplish the mental feat itself. She allowed Revan to feed off her power because otherwise Revan would grow weak and die from Force Drain.

Dude, now you're just ignoring the text, it clearly states she's allowing it for him to continue his fight with the emperor

"Her sustenance strengthened his resolve whenever he grew weak, refreshing and restoring him so he could continue his never-ending mental war."

She was helping him to resist the Emperor dude. don't ignore it, not like it makes Revan any less impressive, she just helped him.

No. It has been accepted and believed since the creation of the novel that Meetra aided Revan in the Force Drain part, not the mental war.
You are not understanding the text correctly. Meetra helped Revan "continue his never-ending mental war" by making the Force Drain out of the equation.
Otherwise, Revan would have weakened/died eventually and the Emperor would have won. Meetra allowed Revan to continually be at full/close to full power.

The text clearly says that whenever Revan "grew weak" she allowed him to feed of her, "refreshing and restoring him," not empowering him. Seriously.

It directly says she strengthened his resolve too.

Originally posted by Nephthys
It directly says she strengthened his resolve too.

Of course. Revan is being constantly weakened every second by the Emperor's drain. He requires Meetra's strength to keep it at his full power. He was never empowered however.

Yes. When it grew weak. Then he was RESTORED. Unless that word has a different meaning your country, I think it's pretty clear what it means.

Oh, was the Emperor draining his resolve too?

Or was it what the text actually says, that she strengthened his resolve?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Oh, was the Emperor draining his resolve too?

Or was it what the text actually says, that she strengthened his resolve?


The Emperor was draining his power, aka everything about it. His resolve would obviously be decreased as well. 😬 Note how Revan never drew on Meetra until he grew "weak."

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
No. It has been accepted and believed since the creation of the novel that Meetra aided Revan in the Force Drain part, not the mental war.
You are not understanding the text correctly. Meetra helped Revan "continue his never-ending mental war" by making the Force Drain out of the equation.
Otherwise, Revan would have weakened/died eventually and the Emperor would have won. Meetra allowed Revan to continually be at full/close to full power.

Yeah, were it not for her, he never would have succeeded in resisting vitiate for as long as he did. ergo, She did in fact help him resist the emperor. He would not have survived for so long without her.

We already know that, but you were implying something different. Glad you concede and agree now though.
You were stating that if Drain was not a factor, Revan would also lose, which is false.
Revan had to draw on Meetra due to the drain, not because he was losing the mental war.

Ant, I'd like to ask you a Revan-centric question.

K?

The prevailing theory is that Revan only attracts fanboys because it enables fat losers with crippling self-esteem issues to live out a grotesque wish fulfillment of a Gary Stu/polymath lifestyle.

What is the source of your particular interest in this 'character'?

Originally posted by The_Tempest
What is the source of your particular interest in this 'character'?

His mask is cool.

goddammit