Originally posted by deathslash
I'm assuming that it's because he can absorb radiation, has comparable stats, and can project the type of radiation that weakens superman
None of that matters if there is a massive speed gap. Not saying there is, but that is why I'm asking.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...have you been keeping up with Captain Atom at all? Lol at the speed comment.
No I haven't really been keeping up with him, that is why I asked. So..what is his speed like? He either needs speed on the level of Superman..or he needs to be so utterly durable that the speed gap(if one exists) doesn't matter.
All I know is that prior to the New Universe..Cap was nowhere near Superman's level of speed nor was he so durable he could withstand a speedblitz, so he must of been given a substantial upgrade since the reboot.
Originally posted by Surtur
None of that matters if there is a massive speed gap. Not saying there is, but that is why I'm asking.No I haven't really been keeping up with him, that is why I asked. So..what is his speed like? He either needs speed on the level of Superman..or he needs to be so utterly durable that the speed gap(if one exists) doesn't matter.
All I know is that prior to the New Universe..Cap was nowhere near Superman's level of speed nor was he so durable he could withstand a speedblitz, so he must of been given a substantial upgrade since the reboot.
Time doesn't mean a thing to someone like Captain Atom who sees the world in slow motion and was also able to keep up with Flash and converse with him who was moving so fast that time and bullets stopped.
You should probably read up on these characters before debating...especially before calling them slow. What's new Superman best speed ft?
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Superman read 10 Years worth of medical texts, in physical form, in unter 5 Minutes and beat a serious flash with a flick of his finger. He is on par with CA, speedwise.
Reading medical books, nice (don't think that comes close to time meaning nothing). Lol...serious Flash? The one that was dancing around making jokes? The one that Superman couldn't tag until he made Flash walk into his hand? Nice try. Like the medical book though. Not close to Atom speed.
Flash wasn't fighting back and as shown per the scans, wasn't even moving that fast. Look at the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th panel...paper around them is shuffling around whereas in the scan I presented, time was at a halt. Flash wasn't moving close to the speed he showed with Captain Atom.
Nice medical book reading though. Still don't think it compares to someone that see time at a halt.
^lol@this cheerleader.
Originally posted by carver9
Flash wasn't fighting back and as shown per the scans, wasn't even moving that fast. Look at the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th panel...paper around them is shuffling around whereas in the scan I presented, time was at a halt. Flash wasn't moving close to the speed he showed with Captain Atom.Nice medical book reading though. Still don't think it compares to someone that see time at a halt.
Flash didn't want to be tagged by Superman so he was moving at his best, yet Superman made the move, you see him moving his fist towards flash and instead of punching him he just flipped a finger and beat him. Superman was holding back, also this was rookie Superman who was still weaker than current one (5 years before now).
Read a book and tell me how many hours you need. Then add it up to 10 years worth of reading and break it down to 5 minutes. You will see that CA feat, where time was still going as you can see in the scans, because they show the clock. This is time seeing at a halt. Supermans speed didn't change compared to the Pre-DCnU as shown in this example.
And here is the time stop you like so much with pre-dcnu superman.
They had a prolonged conversation and moved for some panels while time was "frozen".
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
LOL at the idea that superman needed to read every line of every page... Every heard of skim reading? Regular humans can read pages super fast.
I don't think you skip information if the life of someone you love depends on it. Also, scientific books are sometimes unfogiving. At least in my studies I read the stuff I have too carefully, to understand it properly in order to pass the exams and not to screw up the projects. But then again, I prefer an A over an B.
Flash wasn't going all out. He did not throw a punch. He even stopped to have a conversation during this. He's smiling, etc... that was not a serious Flash. Then we have the previous panel where Superman is trying to catch him but failed. In a lot of panels. Also, time wasn't at a halt when he was fighting against a holding back Flash. Lol...proof that he was holding back...a simple push from Flash did this...
Instead of wrapping Superman cape around him, he could have been tossing Superman across the city with ease but as shown, he was playing around.
Not responding to your scan because that version of Superman isn't in this thread. Nice text book reading though. I think Darksaint hit this topic dead on.
Originally posted by carver9
Flash wasn't going all out. He did not throw a punch. He even stopped to have a conversation during this. He's smiling, etc... that was not a serious Flash. Then we have the previous panel where Superman is trying to catch him but failed. In a lot of panels. Also, time wasn't at a halt when he was fighting against a holding back Flash. Lol...proof that he was holding back...a simple push from Flash did this...Instead of wrapping Superman cape around him, he could have been tossing Superman across the city with ease but as shown, he was playing around.
Not responding to your scan because that version of Superman isn't in this thread. Nice text book reading though. I think Darksaint hit this topic dead on.
Flash doesn't wants to be tagged, he said as much, it is impossible in his world so he was avoiding supes, just because he doesn't punch doesn't mean he isn't moving at his best, on the contrary. Similing doesn't change the fact.
Superman was holding back. Proof? Instead of a finger he could have hit flash with his fist. Fist > Finger. Got it. Glad to help.
I will keep this scan and this thread in mind when you try to lowball pre dcnu Supes. Progress.
So we know that Superman, Flash and CA are very close in the speed department and that Hulk will be a statue to both. Now we need to know how fast BM is, if he has speed feats on par with Flash, CA and Supes. At worst it will be CA vs Superman with Hulk and BM being insignificant stautes at best we have 2 v 1 and Hulk will cost the Team a win.
Also I would like to see CA strength feats that put him on the level of Supes.