Rankings

Started by Vorpal Ruin7 pages

Rankings

I think it would be interesting and helpful if we were to develop a ranking tier system, as in the Comic Vs. forum, to place the more established characters into.

It would be a challenge to anyone who attempted, and nobody could get it all right on their own, but I think the KMC SWEU community could make a great attempt that would produce a great guide for people who are just getting into SWEU, or are just interested.

There are certainly different criteria that we could use to judge, like: Force power, force mastery, lightsaber skill, versatility, etc., but I assert that an overall Combat Prowess be what we measure here, as that would include aspects of all aforementioned criteria, but more importantly showcasing those said criteria in a combat setting, as this is a Vs forum.

Skybreaker attempted something slightly similar to this recently, and I found it disappointing that not a single other poster attempted to rank as the OP intended. I hope the unwillingness was not caused by a lack of knowledge, but we shall see.

The template I had in mind, again, following Comic Vs's lead, would be like:

God Tier: Abeloth, The Ones

Grand Master Tier: Luke Skywalker, Darth Sidious, Yoda

High Master: Mace Windu, Kyp Durron, Jaina Solo, Count Dooku, Darth Bane.

Master: Corran Horn, Kyle Katarn, Lumiya, Mara Jade

High Knight: Leia, Ben Skywalker, Cilghal, Jaden Kor, etc.

Anyway, that's just a basic start, but any input is welcome and attempts to recreate what I had in mind are certainly encouraged. Feel free to change/make more sensible rankings if you prefer.

Cool idea.

Meh IDK. One of the problems with Comicvine is that there's too much of an established norm.

The KMC comic versus forum has a tier system, too. It would make things easier if done right, but getting everyone to agree on who is in what tier...

Originally posted by Trocity
The KMC comic versus forum has a tier system, too. It would make things easier if done right, but getting everyone to agree on who is in what tier...

I refrenced the Comic Vs tier in my OP a couple times, as I really enjoy utilizing it. Having a SW one would be great.

nah

I've been waiting for a thread like this. It's a very good idea to be able to rank the sw characters and I was always wondering why a list was never created.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Meh IDK. One of the problems with Comicvine is that there's too much of an established norm.

I have never been to Comic Vine, so I hope you don't think I was referencing it. I was talking about the KMC Comic Vs. Ranking Thread many users contributed to create.

Edit: Spelling hard.

Originally posted by Vorpal Ruin
I refrenced the Comic Vs tier in my OP a couple times, as I really enjoy utilizing it. Having a SW one would be great.

My apologies, I read it as "Comic Vine" lol

Well, there's different degrees of details. I tend to break things down into more levels.

For me, there's exceptional beings (the One etc.)

Luke Tier (Luke)
Top Tier Grand Master/Dark Lord (Sidious/Yoda/Caedus/Vitiate/etc.)

Grand Master / Dark Lord (Malgus Krayt Satele Exar Jaina Windu Exar Dooku etc.)

High Council (Kenobi Katarn Shaak Ti Plo Koon Nihl Mara jade Sebatyne)

Mid Council (Sazen Kolar Tiin Solusar Azard etc.)

High Jedi/Sith Warrior (Quinlan Aayla Bultar Aurra Piell etc.)

Mid Jedi/Sith Warrior (Ahsoka, Zayne Carrick, Ben Skywalker, etc...)

Low Jedi/Sith Warrior (Tends to be a phase characters tend to pass through rather than stay at. Early series Ahsoka, for example).

Rank and file Jedi/Sith.

Below council I dispensed with master/knight, because too many of the examples of good warriors are knights who are not-yet-promoted, too many of the lower rank ones are masters promoted for non-combat reasons, etc..

And I don't have a separate low-council because while the best combatants of councils tend to stand above the rest of their orders, the ones who are on the council for their combat skills, but at the bottom of that bunch, tend to not necessarily stand above good warriors outside the council.

Heck, for that matter, I think I could also break up Dark Lord into the strong of them, often those with special cheats, (Exar/Reborn Krayt/etc.) and the more normal ones (Dooku, Armored Krayt, Ulic, Malak)....

Base Luke should be Sids tier.

Bloodlusted, all out, no holding back for fear of falling to the dark side Luke is in his own tier, though.

GM Luke is inconsistent.

Originally posted by Trocity
Base Luke should be Sids tier.

Bloodlusted, all out, no holding back for fear of falling to the dark side Luke is in his own tier, though.

He doesn't have to go near the dark side to hit that level, mind. But yes, most of the time he does fight around Sids/Yoda tier.

Originally posted by Q99
Well, there's different degrees of details. I tend to break things down into more levels.

For me, there's exceptional beings (the One etc.)

Luke Tier (Luke)
Top Tier Grand Master/Dark Lord (Sidious/Yoda/Caedus/Vitiate/etc.)

Grand Master / Dark Lord (Malgus Krayt Satele Exar Jaina Windu Exar Dooku etc.)

High Council (Kenobi Katarn Shaak Ti Plo Koon Nihl Mara jade Sebatyne)

Mid Council (Sazen Kolar Tiin Solusar Azard etc.)

High Jedi/Sith Warrior (Quinlan Aayla Bultar Aurra Piell etc.)

Mid Jedi/Sith Warrior (Ahsoka, Zayne Carrick, Ben Skywalker, etc...)

Low Jedi/Sith Warrior (Tends to be a phase characters tend to pass through rather than stay at. Early series Ahsoka, for example).

Let me suggest additions:

Abstract: Abeloth, The Ones

Top Tier Grand Master/Dark Lord: Luke, Sidious, Yoda, Caedus, Vitiate

Grand Master / Dark Lord: Malgus, Krayt, Satele, Exar, Jaina, Windu, Exar, Dooku, Unu'Thul

High Council: Kenobi, Katarn, Shaak Ti, Plo Koon, Nihl, Mara jade, Sebatyne, Corran Horn, Kyp Durron

Mid Council: Sazen, Kolar, Tiin, Solusar, Azard, Darth Maul, Qui-Gon

High Jedi/Sith Warrior: Quinlan, Aayla, Bultar, Aurra, Piell, Ventress

Mid Jedi/Sith Warrior: Ahsoka, Zayne Carrick, Ben Skywalker, Leia, Scout

Low Jedi/Sith Warrior

I put Luke with the others because I think he is in their tier; He is just the best in the top tier.

1. Abeloth, The Ones, Nihilus

2. Luke, Revan (3.0)

3. Sidious, Yoda, Caedus, Vitiate

4. Malgus, Krayt, Exar, Vader

5. Dooku

6. Windu

7. Kenobi, Maul

Tier One: The ones, Abeloth

Tier 2: Plagueis, Yoda, Luke, The Emperor, Caedus

Tier 3: Vader, Dooku, Maul, Windu, Obi Wan, Hero, Darth Tenebrous, Exar Kun, Kyp Durron, Darth Krayt, Darth Malgus, Revan, Darth Traya, Plo Koon, Asajj Ventress, Jaina Solo, Kyle Katarn, Wrath II, Lumiya, General Grievous, Darth Venamis?

Tier 4: Kit Fisto, Darth Wyyrlok, Durge, Agen Kolar, Sora Bulq, Shaak Ti, Satele Shan, Barsenthor, Raskta Lsu, Darth Malak, Darth Nihl, Ulic Qel Droma, Savage Opress, Saesee Tiin, Qui Gon Jinn, Quinlan Vos, Jerec?,Darth Bane, Vodo Siosk Baas, Ven Zallow, Ki Adi Mundi, Cade Skywalker, Satele Shan, Darth Baras, Luminara Unduli

Tier 5: Darth Zannah, Jaden Korr, Kas'im, Xanatos, Gnost Dural, Kao Cen Darach, Tol Braga, Aayla Secura, Anoon Bondara, Darth Talon, Kam Solusar, Bastila Shan, Wolf Sazen, Clighal, Aryn Leneer, Scourge, Darth Sion, Tholme, Bruu Jun Fan, Nomi Sunrider, Vindican? etc.

I probably left some out

Ah, Saba would be tier 3, Mara Jade maybe the lower end of tier 3, Corran Horn tier 4, or high end of tier 4, and Thanaton and Eeth Koth tier 5

*** Tier 10 ***

The Ones (Abeloth as Mother)

*** Tier 9 ***

Darth Plagueis
Darth Sidious
Darth Nihilus
Master of the Order - Mace Windu
The Sith Emperor - Vitiate
Grand Master - Yoda
Grand Master - Luke

*** Tier 8 ***

Darth Vader
Count Dooku
Darth Maul
Darth Caedus
Darth Krayt
Darth Malgus
Darth Sion
Satele Shan
Darth Bane
Exar Kun
Darth Tenebrous
Darth Bane
Darth Zannah
Darth Scabrous
Starkiller
Darth Venamis
Lumiya
Kyp Durron
Darth Revan
Darth Traya

*** Tier 7 ***

Obi-Wan Kenobi
Anakin Skywalker
Plo Koon
Qui-Gon Jinn
Kit Fisto
Asajj Ventress
Savage Opress
Darth Nihl
Darh Wyyrlok
Darth Talon
Pong Krell
Jerec
Kyle Katarn
Ulic Qel-Droma
Odan-Urr
Darth Malak
Bruu Jun-Fan
Quinlan Vos
Sora Bulq
Cade Skywalker
Anoon Bondara
Darth Maladi
Jaina Solo
Saba Sebatyne
Ven Zallow
Meetra Surik

Maul and Caedus in the same tier? LOL!

Come on now.

Originally posted by Trocity
Maul and Caedus in the same tier? LOL!

Caedus is overrated 😮‍💨 and TCW Darth Maul underrated