Bane and Sion don't belong with Exar Kun, Malgus, Krayt, Traya, Maul, or any high tier Sith. Sion is near featless and is only famous for being quasi immortal, and Bane isn't as skilled as a great deal of fighters on tier 8. He is like mid-high tier 7. Satele might be low tier 8 though, I'm not sure.
Originally posted by carthage
Bane and Sion don't belong with Exar Kun, Malgus, Krayt, Traya, Maul, or any high tier Sith. Sion is near featless and is only famous for being quasi immortal, and Bane isn't as skilled as a great deal of fighters on tier 8. He is like mid-high tier 7. Satele might be low tier 8 though, I'm not sure.
Sion's immortality technique deserves some credit imo, and Bane's force powers gives him the enough credit.
Originally posted by Marco1907
Sion's immortality technique deserves some credit imo, and Bane's force powers gives him the enough credit.
His TK off nexus was barely breaking rocks, cracking boxes, killing guards, and tents, and he has never beaten anyone apart from featless trainees. He's more on the level of Quinlan Vos and Savage Opress, and that's being generous considering they've actually beaten semi-powerful fighters.
Hmm... It seems I should've put Sion in tier 7, (looks like too much credit for one technique)
*** Tier 10 ***
The Ones (Abeloth as Mother)
*** Tier 9 ***
Darth Plagueis
Darth Sidious
Darth Nihilus
Master of the Order - Mace Windu
The Sith Emperor - Vitiate
Grand Master - Yoda
Grand Master - Luke
*** Tier 8 ***
Darth Vader
Count Dooku
Darth Maul
Darth Caedus
Darth Krayt
Darth Malgus
Satele Shan
Darth Bane
Exar Kun
Darth Tenebrous
Darth Bane
Darth Zannah
Darth Scabrous
Starkiller
Darth Venamis
Lumiya
Kyp Durron
Darth Revan
Darth Traya
*** Tier 7 ***
Obi-Wan Kenobi
Anakin Skywalker
Plo Koon
Qui-Gon Jinn
Kit Fisto
Asajj Ventress
Savage Opress
Darth Nihl
Darh Wyyrlok
Darth Talon
Pong Krell
Jerec
Kyle Katarn
Ulic Qel-Droma
Odan-Urr
Darth Malak
Bruu Jun-Fan
Quinlan Vos
Sora Bulq
Cade Skywalker
Anoon Bondara
Darth Maladi
Jaina Solo
Saba Sebatyne
Ven Zallow
Meetra Surik
Darth Sion
Originally posted by carthage
His TK off nexus was barely breaking rocks, cracking boxes, killing guards, and tents, and he has never beaten anyone apart from featless trainees. He's more on the level of Quinlan Vos and Savage Opress, and that's being generous considering they've actually beaten semi-powerful fighters.
His force lightning is impressive enough imo, he has better force lightning than Count.
We can argue who goes on which tier elsewhere, I think we should focus on possible ranking systems here.
Originally posted by deathslash
Do you guys think that we should maybe include the non force sensitive characters and where they stand in regards to the jedi/sith?
Sure.
I find 'how they overlap' to be tricking, but a non-force sensitive tier list seems like a great idea.
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
TCW Maul had difficulty with Pre Vizla -_-
TCW Maul needed to make a good show, otherwise he couldn't win the loyalty of Death Watch.
Anyway, why Vizsla is so shit now ? He hold his own against Kenobi with only pure lightsaber skill, and different than Kenobi duel, Vizsla used his every weaponry (grenades, flamethrower etc.) against Maul, and Maul never used any TK to him.
Originally posted by Marco1907
TCW Maul needed to make a good show, otherwise he couldn't win the loyalty of Death Watch.
Is there anything that supports this?
Anyway, why Vizsla is so shit now ? He hold his own against Kenobi with only pure lightsaber skill, and different than Kenobi duel, Vizsla used his every weaponry (grenades, flamethrower etc.) against Maul, and Maul never used any TK to him. [/B]
I didn't say he's shit, i'm just saying it's sort of inconsistent along with his struggle with the bounty hunters on Nal Hutta.
I wouldn't put Maul on Caedus' level. Vader>Dooku>Maul imo
Originally posted by ILS
...as did Obi-Wan Kenobi. Besides, this logic is flawed. It's not a bad showing for Maul rather than a good one for Viszla, and the character is just a big bag of nonsense to begin with anyway.
Originally posted by EmperordmbWhich is part of what I was getting at - it's not really a bad showing for Maul as much as it is a good showing for Viszla. Although really there hasn't ever been an example of a non-Force sensitive taking on a duelist of Maul's calibre in a lightsaber duel outside of Viszla, which I just chalk up to TCW BS.
Mandalorians have been consistently portrayed as some of the greatest non-force sensitive warriors in the mythos, and Vizsla is their leader.