for those who have seen matrix 2

chico, thanks again for the script and the awesome link! i was surprised to find the majority of my own ideas on that link

Same here Tevesh

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that matrix within a matrix idea bothered me from the moment I heard it

i have to admit, it was my first impression, and i did believe it for a bit. but after watching the movie again for the 2nd time, i "saw the light" so to say.

also..another question (though i might have just missed this)
where did the machines get the coordinates of Zion?

Good question, but

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In the movie it seemed they always knew where it was since they "refresh" it every so often. Maybe the codes were just a way to make the one find his way to the source

O.K. that was a hella weak attempt to try to explain that.

did you know that you can see the camera crew reflection in the sunglases they use????

don't care.
then why were the agents so desperate to get the coordinates in the first movie, chico?

well that was part of Neo having to realize he was the one. In his attempt to save morpheus and his choices (already seen) the wheels are set in motion for the "prophecy".

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thus leading him ultimately to the source

huh??.....so...the agents helped him realise he's the one?

good point, probably the architect knows where it is at, but he doesnt let the rest of the programs know because that is part of the equation for the matrix. all the other programs dont know the true purpose of zion and "the one" otherwise they would probably step aside to let Neo achieve getting to the architect.

Originally posted by Dexx
huh??.....so...the agents helped him realise he's the one?

Yes, in a way, all programs from the matrix take part in helping to find the one.

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Because The One is important to the matrix as a whole for without The One the matrix would not be able to Reboot causing the crash of the whole system, or so I understand.

right...highly exagerated. The agents can just go and kick neo in the head to proove their good intentions in helping him find out he's the one...no need to force it out of morpheus....
This is yet to be elucidated

Originally posted by finti

NO MORE OF THIS *** SPOILER ALERT**** WRITINGS, THE EXAMPLE ABOVE IS HOW IT IS DONE MAKE USE OF IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [/B]

gotcha..... thanks... now i know... its not in the help for the vb code

What is the significance of

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Neo choosing to save humanity over Trinity (the kiss) then later choosing to save Trinity over saving humanity (the doors)?

well i guess he was thinking that its just a kiss, plus he was under the impression that he could save humanity from slavery as apposed to the choice at the end he realised that he cant save man from slavery with either door so he decided to save trinity. thats my guess but i dont know thats a tuffy.

FLIPMODE
yes those are some verry good points....
i know... it either implies that he has carried his powers into the real world..... or.... yet another level of the matrix.... i dunno....

... need coffee

(by the way.. sorry i know it diddnt make much sense...... i was on my way out as i typed it up... then saw the thread..."for those who have seen matrix".... well... i just cut and pasted my comment from one thread into this one.... only reading the contents of this thread later.... to feel like a dork:-p)

Hey people whats up i really thought this forum was interesting so i though i put in what i know about the matrix reloaded or what i noticed ok first things first

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I understand the whole revolution thing but I didnt think that Neo stopped the sentinals because he was still in the Matrix. i do believe that is the real world. my impression was that this revolution around something is different. the machine world and the human world are merging. remember how the counsel member talked how we need them and we need us? well now smith is able to leave the matrix.
neo is able to use the power of control he has in the matrix, in terms of electricity and such to control machine in the outside world (though if he is able to fly in the real world too then things are really messed up). what i found most interesting was: the reason you can die in the matrix is because you are alive and aware of a bullet going through you and the brain mimics what happens when youd die. when neo restarted her heart he was in the matrix, he brain would not be aware of the someone starting the heart and should not be able to mimic whatd that be like. though neo can now control both worlds from either side i guess its plausible he could revive her plus like agent smith said that neo and him have alittle bit of each other in them since on the first movie smith killed neo and neo killed smith so they are united in that way and since smith can control machines neo used that source that smith left in him and used it 2 kill the machines on the real world and thats why they were both the last survivors

another thing that i always wondered is that u know on the first movie when neo is held by the 3 agents in a room and u see the shot thru a monitor then it goes into the room i always wondered who was the one watching and now i do

I Agree With The Persephone Thing i also think that shes going to play a big role on the next movie and i also think that shes going to be the key to salvation

the scary movie thats playing while persephone kills one of those dudes hints that those programs are like the werewolves and vampires and like she said they are helpfull cause they are hard to kill

thats all i cant think about at the momment if i have more ill hit u guys up lates

Reveiller

Yeah I did notice the vampire movie playing in the background and had just mentioned it today to a friend.

oh ok the thing that sucked is that i didnt get to see the trailer for the next movie since my friends rushed out of the theater and plus i didnt know i gotta go see that movie again Lol

good to have a fellow believer on my side, Reveiller