Darth Krayt vs Darth Bane (sabers only)

Started by DarthAnt6616 pages

Originally posted by Nephthys
But he didn't though. Letting the Force flow through him isn't the same as drawing on the nexus.

A Force nexus is an area with a concentrated/unnatural amount of Force energy. Bane calling upon the Force grants him access to additional Force energy due to the concentration of it currently.
To put it into more easy to understand terms, since the energy is more concentrated, more can go through through Bane's midichlorians for him to use against Kas'im. Basic Star Wars science, bro. 😉

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
A Force nexus is an area with a concentrated/unnatural amount of Force energy. Bane calling upon the Force grants him access to additional Force energy due to the concentration of it currently.
To put it into more easy to understand terms, since the energy is more concentrated, more can go through through Bane's midichlorians for him to use against Kas'im. Basic Star Wars science, bro. 😉

Nope. Thats not voluntarily drawing on the nexus, thats drawing on the force and it being involuntarily more effective. But that's besides the point. It's not as if Kas'im wasn't you know, using the Force too.

You don't have to "draw" on it to be amped, when Bane arrived on Lehon he involuntarily got a headache, Bane also knew the Temple was a place strong in the darkside:

As soon as Bane’s feet touched the Unknown World’s surface he felt it: a deep thrumming,
similar to what he’d first felt on Korriban but much, much stronger.
Even the air felt
different: heavy with ancient history and secrets long forgotten.

Bane senses the power of the temple

Bane couldn’t see more than a few meters ahead through the thick vegetation, but he knew they were close now. He could sense the power of the Temple, calling to him from behind the impenetrable curtain of tangled vines and twisted branches. Clamping down with the dark side, he crushed the last of the mighty rancor’s will to resist and urged it forward

Likewise No one is posting any feats Kas'im has done or anyone Bane has beaten that surpasses anything by Cade or Krayt. So I'm assuming this is an attempt for Neph to save face. Bantha I also accept your concession

Feeling something = being amped by it, ok.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Feeling something = being amped by it, ok.

Bane felt the power of the temple and involuntarily got a headache, he would involuntarily be amped whether or not he went in due to the area being strong in the darkside. But keep ignoring the fact the place was a nexus Neph 👆

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
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****ing auto correct. I do all my stuff on my phone now because my computer sucks and I can't get on it without my brother throwing a hissy fit because it makes his call of duty lag. Any ways that's why I'm never in chat any more

Originally posted by WildBantha88
****ing auto correct. I do all my stuff on my phone now because my computer sucks and I can't get on it without my brother throwing a hissy fit because it makes his call of duty lag. Any ways that's why I'm never in chat any more

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Hold on Neph, drawing you a diagram.

Originally posted by carthage
Again I never even highlighted his duel with Kas'im in my prior discussion with Bantha. I never considered it and still don't consider it an example of Bane outskilling Kas'im. He had to draw on the nexus to kill him/draw on the force to even hold his own, it would be different if he beat him outright in a contest of pure sabers. Kas'im likewise has beaten no one, whereas, Cade has beaten Nihl, Talon, fought evenly with Antares Draco, and Krayt dominated him in a duel/killed Wyyrlok/blitzed knights . Bane has no comparable saber feats to Krayt.

I don't care, this has nothing to do with my initial interjection.

Originally posted by carthage
Bane felt the power of the temple and involuntarily got a headache, he would involuntarily be amped whether or not he went in due to the area being strong in the darkside. But keep ignoring the fact the place was a nexus Neph 👆

Getting a headache = drawing on a nexus, ok.

Your initial interjection had nothing to do with what I was discussing anyway, you came in and as always ignored the fact Bane's feats occur on places strong in the dark side (as always).

But whatever no one has bothered to address the fact Krayt has objectively better dueling feats than Bane so I'm assuming the conversation is over and everyone has admitted Bane is an inferior duelist and would die.

No, Bane still wins.

Bane dies

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
🙁 we miss you bubby, Hopefully you'll be able to figure out a way to get online again sometime in the future. For now, i'll enjoy those expansive oils 😍
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Originally posted by WildBantha88
you had better. They were expensive

I'll need you to do my back though 😉

Originally posted by Nephthys
Nope. Thats not voluntarily drawing on the nexus, thats drawing on the force and it being involuntarily more effective. But that's besides the point. It's not as if Kas'im wasn't you know, using the Force too.

You continue to fail to understand. Please listen so you can learn for future debates. The area where Bane was fighting in had a HIGH concentration of Force energy, being much greater then usual. Please understand that the Force and a nexus are not separate entities. A nexus is a way to describe the Force in a condensed state. When Bane opened himself up to this energy voluntarily, more energy was able to come in for him to use thanks to it being concentrated. I made some simple diagrams below to help you better get what I am saying so in the future you understand better about this topic 🙂 :

* When I say "Force Reserve", I mean Darth Bane's entire body including tissue and such. Sorry about that typo.

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
🙁 we miss you bubby, Hopefully you'll be able to figure out a way to get online again sometime in the future. For now, i'll enjoy those expansive oils 😍
you had better. They were expensive

Again, if a nexus had to be voluntarily drawn on to have effects, Jedi would not be weakened and/or driven to the dark side whilst on their surfaces. Unless you're trying to tell me that Yoda was voluntarily drawing on Vjun's nexus to hinder himself?

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Again, if a nexus had to be voluntarily drawn on to have effects, Jedi would not be weakened and/or driven to the dark side whilst on their surfaces. Unless you're trying to tell me that Yoda was voluntarily drawing on Vjun's nexus to hinder himself?

👆 Any living being has a constant supply of Force energy going into them every micro-second. Because of this is why Jedi are weakened.
When one manually calls upon the outside Force for additional energy, they are using the midichlorians to it's maximum current potential.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
You continue to fail to understand. Please listen so you can learn for future debates. The area where Bane was fighting in had a HIGH concentration of Force energy, being much greater then usual. Please understand that the Force and a nexus are not separate entities. A nexus is a way to describe the Force in a condensed state. When Bane opened himself up to this energy voluntarily, more energy was able to come in for him to use thanks to it being concentrated. I made some simple diagrams below to help you better get what I am saying so in the future you understand better about this topic 🙂 :

* When I say "Force Reserve", I mean Darth Bane's entire body including tissue and such. Sorry about that typo.

That wouldn't be voluntary though. That's still Bane just drawing upon the Force as he does everywhere else and the nexus making it more effective without Bane deliberately drawing upon it. Bane using the nexus to fuel his Death Field? That's him deliberately using a nexus. Bane using the Force and the nexus automatically making it more powerful? Not voluntary.

Originally posted by Nephthys
That wouldn't be voluntary though. That's still Bane just drawing upon the Force as he does everywhere else and the nexus making it more effective without Bane deliberately drawing upon it. Bane using the nexus to fuel his Death Field? That's him deliberately using a nexus. Bane using the Force and the nexus automatically making it more powerful? Not voluntary.

I don't completely understand what you are getting at here, please explain. Bane calling upon Force energy (that is concentrated, since they are on a nexus) grants him additional power.
I once again stress that nexus's and the Force itself are not separate entities. A nexus is a concentrated area of the Force. Bane calling upon the Force on Lehon gets him extra energy then usual.