So Kas'im is a good fighter because he can stalemate (more like fail to defeat) Trainee Bane, trained in a bunch of styles (which never led to beating anyone of note), and because he beat his master (who likewise never beat anyone of note).
Great one Bantha 👆, you really showed me 👆. You never responded to any of Ant's, mine, or Newguy's points that all of the Legacy duelists have beaten people of their own (unlike Kas'im and his master), and instead made posts like this:
Cade, who has only beat Krayts sucky underlings? Four fearless mook Jedi?
Talon and Nihl and Cade who's only feats are beating each other. None of them is as impressive as the school teacher
You do know those "sucky underlings" all have beaten the people Ant and Newguy listed? Yet you haven't for two pages shown anyone that Kas'im or Na daz have beaten that puts them above even Sazen, Talon, or Nihl. I'm going to assume that you cannot do so, and you're just going to keep parroting on Kas'ims "technical mastery" in spite of having no evidence he was a good duelist and or has beaten people of the same caliber Krayt has defeated.
Originally posted by WildBantha88
random fearless sigh 👆 neither has any real feats
Uh, I rate Kas'im pretty well, he was one of the best of his era, but it's really evident that Talon and Nihl have a good share of feats. Cade even more-so.
It's lazy debating to go 'Y is featless!' instead of 'I think X is stronger because...'.
Originally posted by WildBantha88
Kas'im 1. Mastered all lightsaber forms to the fullest.2. Stalemated one of the highest ranking sith of the order.
3. Defeating his master who was prestigious with the lightsaber and taught Kas'im most of what he knows about lightsaber combat which is quite literally everything
On one, I'll point out mastery of more forms isn't necessarily much of an edge. Some of the best duelists focus on just one form, and some duelists know all the forms while still managing to not be overly powerful. It simply makes one more flexible.
Two's his main thing. That's Kas'im's best feat.
Three is good, but not unusual, most high-rank people have beatened prestigious masters (Nihl certainly has). We don't know too much of what his master did, after all. His master could've been a Cin Drallig for all we know.
Originally posted by Q99
On one, I'll point out mastery of more forms isn't necessarily much of an edge. Some of the best duelists focus on just one form, and some duelists know all the forms while still managing to not be overly powerful. It simply makes one more flexible.
Kas'im seems to be pretty unique in that he was able to focus on absolutely every form but was still good enough with each form in a way that's comparable to high level saber masters that specialise in just a single form. This isn't a simple matter of a jack of all trades versus a single form master. He was an extremely high level master and perfectionist of every single form, and nobody else really comes close to matching how comprehensively he mastered lightsaber combat, so I'd say it's a huge edge.
Bulq mastered every form and then completely perfected every aspect of them? The first part I buy, but the second I doubt.
Also, mastering all forms is pretty much Yoda and Sidious' main claim to fame when it comes to their skill and the main thing people bring up when discussing them. Tempest always busts out the sources for that point. And it's certainly nothing to sneeze at when it comes to advantages. The Forms round themselves out very nicely and being able to switch between them at will is an edge imo.
Originally posted by ILS
Yeah, if anyone does well against Mace Windu he's holding back on them by principle.
No, because I've quote to prove it.
'' Mace was highly distressed that his mission involved fighting his old friend and colleague Sora Bulq.
- Source : Fact Files #108''
Originally posted by NewGuy01
The fight with Ventress was staged, though. Similarly to Savage vs Vizsla.
She cut him iirc. or was he faking it ? He tried to save his former padawan but failed.
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