Darth Krayt vs Darth Bane (sabers only)

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WildBantha88 Senior Member

Hey Fated xtasy.... I want you

DarthAnt66 DarthAnt66

I don't loathe anyone.

Based off of what I have seen from you, I feel this is an inaccurate statement.
So screwing up one small fact shows that I'm lacking in knowledge of that lore? funny

It was more then just that, but that is a notable and heavy example. Addition to this is you saying you don't know about it either.
There is no reason for you having to deny this. You should feel comfortable here for we are all here to learn more about Star Wars.
You assume too much, I've read them. Move on.

There is no reason to lie just to make yourself look better. We should be all supportive here.
Being a polite dick is still being a dick.

Encouraging someone to read Star Wars does not deserve a insult, my friend!
Emperordmb is more than just "decently educated"

I did not mean that as an insult, obviously. Just from personal experience I feel members like Nephthys are more educated on that particular subject.
That being said, I feel with months of additional learning and striving towards a goal Emperordmb will be considered a high-rated user for Darth Bane.
Bantha is just as educated

Based off of information stated in this thread, I disagree. 🙂
you're just being a child

If you are upset, please explain. I do not enjoy members such as yourself being hostile to others. Thank you.
Mastery that when i pointed out the flaws you started to accuse me of being mean?

You didn't point out any flaws, sadly. We discussed what companions would have accompanied Revan to Korriban, and that was really it.
You didn't debunk them, you didn't debunk anything.

I question if we are talking about the same discussion then. 😄

WildBantha88 Senior Member

You need to remember I an debating against Carthage. Debating with him is...delicate...

DarthAnt66 DarthAnt66

I understand the difficulty, but sometimes debating with superior debaters can be rewarding for experience and knowledge.

Nephthys The Gr8est!!!!!!!!

Ant, I thought you wanted to get along with people and stop being such a douche all the time, putting others down to make yourself feel better. Phrasing your insults in insincere politeness is still insulting.

Originally posted by WildBantha88
Now for Carthage. I am going to break down why your assessment of Kas'im and Bane are wrong.

First off Kas'im is stated as being the greatest duelist in the galaxy at that time, that is further backed up by his complete mastery of every single lightsaber form, you can call it technical all you want but some one doesnt master all the forms and still remain unskilled. Now I know you are going to say that the greatest duelist in the galaxy thing is just Banes opinion but there is evidence to support this claim. Kas'im was the lightsaber instructor for the academy on korriban. Since you are most likely ignorant to the workings of the Sith of that era, let me explain. The academies of that era were each specified for training certain types of Sith. Fodder, decent, good, etc, with the students with the most potential getting the best training on korriban. The students of korriban would go onto be the leaders of the Sith and they entrusted Kas'im solely the responsibility of training them. This indicates that Kas'im is the best at the very least among the Sith.

Now as for Sirak being fodder you are wrong again. Sirak was the top student in the Korriban academy and as I just previously explained, korriban is the academy for only the best of the best. These students were above the average Sith, if you need proof then look at Githany who was a fully fledged Jedi Knight and had battlefield experience and yet when inducted into the academy she was only on par with the other students and knew that she had no chance at defeating Sirak. Kas'im as well as other masters often praised Siraks skill and the dark lords of the Sith believed Sirak to be the Sith'ari.

That's right the most powerful Sith of the era believed Sirak to be Sith Jesus. But im sure your right, since he didn't teleport through time and kick Kit Fisto's ass he is obviously fodder. :/

Githany also flat out laughed at the idea of anyone beating Bane after he'd defeated Kas'im, stating: ""If he could handle Kas'im, then I doubt anyone else will stand a chance against him."

After he beat's Sirak, Bane also laughs off the idea of fighting Kas'im for real and Kas'im judged his abilities from what he knew so below his own that he was shocked that he couldn't blitz Bane off the bat.

DarthAnt66 DarthAnt66

Ant, I thought you wanted to get along with people and stop being such a douche all the time, putting others down to make yourself feel better. Phrasing your insults in insincere politeness is still insulting.

I am literally trying to be nice as possible... I didn't insult anyone in this thread. How is telling Fated Xtasy to read Legacy a insult? 😖

Fated Xtasy Kami

Originally posted by DarthAnt66

I am literally trying to be nice as possible... I didn't insult anyone in this thread. [/B]

Quit acting so innocent it's not fooling anyone ant.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Ant, I thought you wanted to get along with people and stop being such a douche all the time, putting others down to make yourself feel better. Phrasing your insults in insincere politeness is still insulting.[/B]

I doubt this'll happen, thank you for trying though Neph, much appreciated it.

Originally posted by WildBantha88
Hey Fated xtasy.... I want you [/B]

Well, I still have the expensive oils so.... 😍

Nephthys The Gr8est!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by DarthAnt66

I am literally trying to be nice as possible... I didn't insult anyone in this thread. How is telling Fated Xtasy to read Legacy a insult? 😖 [/B]

You're acting like a condescending asshat, and your faux-politeness is so transparent it makes Casper look like lead.

DarthAnt66 DarthAnt66

There is a difference between insulting and honesty. I am not trying to act condescending. Allow me to explain:
If I tell Fated Xtasy "you know nothing about Legacy" with the intention of an insult, the message is an insult.
If I tell Fated Xtasy "you should learn more about Legacy" with the intention to tell him to learn more about Legacy honestly, the message is honest.
If I suggest to Fated Xtasy to "further expand his knowledge on lore", then the intention is to be honest with a cherry on top.

Dionysus Restricted

Originally posted by Nephthys
You're acting like a condescending asshat, and your faux-politeness is so transparent it makes Casper look like lead.
👆 x 10

DarthAnt66 DarthAnt66

Some people don't understand former-dicks can give constrictive suggestions at times.
Has society fell so far that people get insulted when someone tells them to read a book?
Isn't the entire concept of us being here to expand our Star Wars knowledge while gaining new friends?

Nephthys The Gr8est!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
There is a difference between insulting and honesty. I am not trying to act condescending. Allow me to explain:
If I tell Fated Xtasy "you know nothing about Legacy" with the intention of an insult, the message is an insult.
If I tell Fated Xtasy "you should learn more about Legacy" with the intention to tell him to learn more about Legacy honestly, the message is honest.
If I suggest to Fated Xtasy to "further expand his knowledge on lore", then the intention is to be honest with a cherry on top.

You told Fated that if he didn't know anything then he should shut up, you just phrased it in such a way as to be pointedly polite while still talking down to him. If you really just wanted to make some suggestions you could have done so in a genuine and friendly manner instead of condescending to him and presuming that you can lecture him on his posting.

Emperordmb LSDMB

And there's the fact that he basically called Xtasy a liar...

DarthAnt66 DarthAnt66

Originally posted by Nephthys
You told Fated that if he didn't know anything then he should shut up, you just phrased it in such a way as to be pointedly polite while still talking down to him. If you really just wanted to make some suggestions you could have done so in a genuine and friendly manner instead of condescending to him and presuming that you can lecture him on his posting.

The friendly manner was to demonstrate I am trying to go about saying it peacefully. Otherwise I would have rudely just blurted it out. How would have you handled the situation?
I wanted to get my point across without being the normal dick I was, so I decided to take a nicer, suggesting approach to encourage Fated Xtasy to read more on Legacy since the comics are bamf.
Personally, if there is a debate and I jump into it, and then a person says "You don't know enough about NJO to contribute," first admittedly I would be offended, but then I would realize it is true.
I would then leave the debate, and if I wished to continue to try to get into NJO debates, I would read up some novels and respect threads so I have enough information to make educated arguments.

Fated Xtasy Kami

It's fine, he likes to forget how I've made full analysis for Celeste Morne and Talon on my tournament threads, without looking and going on Wookieepedia - had i done that, i wouldn't have wasted Selenials time with questions about Jaina, But again, it's fine, I tend to expect this from him

Emperordmb LSDMB

And I suppose calling Xtasy a liar is your oh so gracious positive reinforcement as well Ant?

carthage PLEASE PROTECT ME STONES

Bantha all of what you said is pretty meaningless tbh. I asked specifically what dueling feats/what people he's beaten that makes him superior to Legadh duelists. All you typed was just a lot of nonsense I already knew, and none of it was relevant to showing actual proof in feats that make Kas'im superior to Cade, Talon, or Nihl. Being a good trainee or technically proficient are not replacements for the fact , Kas'im and Sirak have no showings in duels to put them above Legacy duelists. You already typed all of that out before, none of it is anything new.

DarthAnt66 DarthAnt66

Originally posted by Emperordmb
And I suppose calling Xtasy a liar is your oh so gracious positive reinforcement as well Ant?

That was actually just simple honesty. There is no reason to lie over sources you do or do not have. People shouldn't feel pressured.
If Fated Xtasy does actually have more then 3 of the comics, I sincerely apologize, but I would require an assessment to see if that is true.
Basically, I would ask him for quotes from a specific page number of a specific comic and see if he has them. Fated Xtasy, would you be interested in this?

carthage PLEASE PROTECT ME STONES
Originally posted by WildBantha88
You need to remember I an debating against Carthage. Debating with him is...delicate...

You weren't able to produce showings in duels that would put Na'daz or Kas'im above Talon, Nihl, Cade, or Sazen. Two other posters already posted the dueling feats for the aforementioned duelists, and all you keel doing is rehashing that Ka'sim is a skilled duelist without being able to producing anyone notable he's beaten. Just concede the point already

Emperordmb LSDMB

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
That was actually just simple honesty. There is no reason to lie over sources you do or do not have. People shouldn't feel pressured.
If Fated Xtasy does actually have more then 3 of the comics, I sincerely apologize, but I would require an assessment to see if that is true.
Basically, I would ask him for quotes from a specific page number of a specific comic and see if he has them. Fated Xtasy, would you be interested in this?

I can't believe you are trying to justify calling Xtasy a liar, despite the fact that he, you know, hasn't lied before. If you were unaware of Xtasy having read the source, you could've simply asked him about it, said you never heard about him having read that source before, or asking for clarification, or something. Flat out accusing him of "lying just to make himself look better" is not supportive, is not justified, is not positive criticism, it is you condescending over him and acting like his superior.

You have quite the nerve to try and justify calling him a liar, after you got all upset about "him not trusting you" because he wouldn't share his personal info with you.