Dragon Ball Z: Revival of "F"

Originally posted by Galan007
Beerus not being more interested in Freeza's prowess is very odd, given what we saw.

The guy doesn't train a day in his life, and he was still THE most powerful being in the universe(sans Gods/Kaioshin) by a HUGE margin--hell, his next closest rival was Ginyu, with a PL of 120,000. He was only surpassed when Goku finally became a SSJ--and by that time he'd already subjugated countless worlds, and formed a massive empire. Then, with a scant 4 months of training, Freeza unlocks power far beyond what any Saiyan was capable of reaching unaided... A power that was initially beyond even BSSJG Goku(ergo the RoF promo-material stating that this was a battle "surpassing Gods."😉

So yeah, Freeza is the real prodigy in the DBZ-verse... Goku/Vegeta are feebs compared to him, tbh. srsly

This much thought did not actually get put into Frieza's power-up. 😐

It was simply a plot device to give Goku trouble so we would have "man-vs.-man" literary conflict. 😐

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He still could've upped the time from Frieza revival to him becoming a god. Instead of 4 months, he could said a yr or 2 yrs, or 3. There wouldn't have been a huge different in the story if he would've done this. I agree with Galan on this one.

Did Frieza even become a God? ^

If not that debunks the whole Gods cannot be hurt by normal Ki

Originally posted by carver9
Plus, god powers doesn't have power levels since it isn't ki.

Originally posted by dadudemon
This much thought did not actually get put into Frieza's power-up.

Originally posted by bbrem123
Did Frieza even become a God? ^

If not that debunks the whole Gods cannot be hurt by normal Ki

What also debunks that nonsensical myth is Sorbet killing BSSJG Goku with a blast from his ring-lazer. 🙂

True^

I always took that as him putting his guard down completely. Whis even lectures them about this when training them.

Yeah, Goku's guard was definitely down... But he was still in his BSSJG/God form at the time. If 'normal' ki were ineffective against Goldly ki, then the lazer should have bounced off of him whether his guard was down or not... Same with Freeza's punches.

I didnt think it matter about the form. Thought he could be in BSSG and still be generating no ki.

Kind of how they were in SSJ mode during the Cell Saga.

Yes they are still superhuman but with zero ki usage they are very vulnerable. They are not like superman and alway invulnerable.

That is how I saw it anyways. But yes you are right. Either way if Frieza was not a god that theory is invalid

So Golden Frieza's power level is confirmed 100 quintillion.

Try adding that up.

^ I've busted that non-canon power level a few times now...

Ryusei Nakao(the Japanese voice actor for Freeza) jokingly stated in an interview that Freeza's BP might be around 100 quintillion:

-By the way, how high do you suppose Freeza’s battle power has gotten now?
RN: He’s a nice guy, so maybe 100 quintillion?

*Nakao is making a pun on Freeza being a “nice guy” (ナイスガイ; naisu gai) and his battle power being a “hundred quintillion” (垓; gai).

-Source

Aside from the joking nature of his statement, Nakao is also just a voice actor. He certainly isn't a in a position to 'canonize' a BP of that magnitude.

But I am.

Touche.

Resurrection 'F' Theatrical Trailer #2

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Golden Freeza kind of puts to rest the theory that normal ki doesn't work on god.ki, doesn't it?

He didn't even know Goku was using a special.form of ki before he started training, as his henchmen referenced up to the Buu saga. And all evidence points to him simply training to boost his existing stats, which work off regular ki

The Golden form is simply a 5th transformation within Freeza's biology that he unlocked by vigorously training for the first time in his life. Furthermore, Godly ki cannot be sensed by mortals, and ALL of the Z fighters could clearly sense Freeza's power. Suffice to say: there was nothing 'Godly' about Freeza's ki--it was just really, really massive.

So yeah, Golden Freeza vs. BSSJG Goku is a clear indicator that Godly ki can be harmed by normal ki. If anyone doubted it before, the certainly can't now.

Originally posted by juggerman
I would have liked it to go down something like this:

Frieza comes to Earth and his minions are defeated so he steps into the fray.

1st Form- Completely wipes out all of the lesser Z Fighters(Krillin, Tien, 18, Goten and Trunks) until Piccolo comes around and makes him up his game.

2nd Form- Runs thru Piccolo and Gohan since Gohan is sooooo freaking WEAK NOW!!!!! Finally he sets his sights on Mr. Satan but Buu will have none of that and proceeds to pound Frieza's face off.

3rd Form- After realizing this is the beast his father warned him about he transforms again and is able to fight evenly with Buu. He even starts to override his healing factor. As Buu seems to be losing the boys step back in and fuse but even they aren't enough. Frieza begins to overpower Gotenks. Can no one stop the mighty Frieza?

4th Form- Bam, Vegeta arrives to save the day. He mocks Frieza and tells him that Saiyans are the superior race and goads him into using his final form. After a good fight they seem completely even. That is until Frieza drops the bomb. He's been holding back this entire time!

Golden Form- This is where we see Frieza's true power. He destroys Vegeta easily. Like Easy Easy. That's when Goku arrives and the main event begins.

Originally posted by Galan007
The Golden form is simply a 5th transformation within Freeza's biology that he unlocked by vigorously training for the first time in his life. Furthermore, Godly ki cannot be sensed by mortals, and ALL of the Z fighters could clearly sense Freeza's power. Suffice to say: there was nothing 'Godly' about Freeza's ki--it was just really, really massive.

So yeah, Golden Freeza vs. BSSJG Goku is a clear indicator that Godly ki can be harmed by normal ki. If anyone doubted it before, the certainly can't now.

Yeah, the only real advantage of god ki is being undetectable by anyone other then other god ki users. More or less like a poor man's Android.

And as Freeza can't even sense normal ki, it made no difference in how he approached Goku.

Conversely, Goku having the ability to ki sense is a MAJOR advantage. If he couldn't sense Freeza's power drain, he wouldn't know enough to rope 'a dope him and play keep away. Might have even wasted energy trying to overwhelm his defenses, like Vegeta did against #18.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Lame and predictable. Glad you didn't write it.

I think you mean "badass and awesome sauce". Frieza powering up through his forms would have been epic and really nostalgic. Don't hate son

Originally posted by juggerman
I think you mean "badass and awesome sauce". Frieza powering up through his forms would have been epic and really nostalgic. Don't hate son

And your layout was boring and something we've seen many times before.

Vegeta getting to make Frieza his ***** after everything the tyrant put him through is the highlight of the film. Much needed respite and closure for Vegeta right there.

And Goku still got to do the finishing blow as per DragonBall law so its all good.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
I don't mind the transformations, but they are a waste of time.

And your layout was boring and something we've seen many times before.

Vegeta getting to make Frieza his ***** after everything the tyrant put him through is the highlight of the film. Much needed respite and closure for Vegeta right there.

And Goku still got to do the finishing blow as per DragonBall law so its all good.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Vegeta getting to make Frieza his ***** after everything the tyrant put him through is the highlight of the film. Much needed respite and closure for Vegeta right there.