His familiarity of Bane's form wasn't enough to give him any advantage, hence his ridiculously low showing of resorting to Jar Kai. His skill wasn't enough to utterly take Bane out, I mean the guy knows "every style" yet can't devise a new form to kill Bane or come up with something expected? Ok.
Talon is still the better duelist given her showings against Vao and Sazen, Kas'im has nothing to compare at the end of the day. His skill wasn't enough to kill an early Darth Bane, and it won't be enough to beat a more skilled duelist.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Talon casually beat Vao and Sazen, who in returned slaughtered literally an army of Sith Warriors.
Unless Kas'im has got feats I am not aware of, her combat abilities vastly outstrips a Skreev. 😉
How many of those Sith warriors have actual feats that represent a level of power and skill comparable to that of Banes?(cue the"featless" remark from Carthage) Talon is good, but not that good.
Originally posted by carthage
His familiarity of Bane's form wasn't enough to give him any advantage, hence his ridiculously low showing of resorting to Jar Kai. His skill wasn't enough to utterly take Bane out, I mean the guy knows "every style" yet can't devise a new form to kill Bane or come up with something expected? Ok.Talon is still the better duelist given her showings against Vao and Sazen, Kas'im has nothing to compare at the end of the day. His skill wasn't enough to kill an early Darth Bane, and it won't be enough to beat a more skilled duelist.
It would give him the exact same advantage that Bane got, he knew how to counter and nullify all of Bane's moves. It's just that since Bane was more powerful, he was able to do that better. And goddamn these double standards. You shit on Bane for not being able to beat Kas'im through skill and now you shit on Kas'im for not being able to take Bane out through skill, suggesting he should have invented a new ****ing form on the fly while in a lightsaber fight. Jesus, I don't know why even a single person takes you seriously.
Kas'im is a better duelist because he lightsaber mastery far eclipses Talon's. Talon got easily pwned by a trainee Cade, she sucks!1!1
Originally posted by Nephthys
It would give him the exact same advantage that Bane got, he knew how to counter and nullify all of Bane's moves. It's just that since Bane was more powerful, he was able to do that better. And goddamn these double standards. You shit on Bane for not being able to beat Kas'im through skill and now you shit on Kas'im for not being able to take Bane out through skill, suggesting he should have invented a new ****ing form on the fly while in a lightsaber fight. Jesus, I don't know why even a single person takes you seriously.Kas'im is a better duelist because he lightsaber mastery far eclipses Talon's. Talon got easily pwned by a trainee Cade, she sucks!1!1
Excuses, Excuses. For all of your harping of Kas'im's skill and going on about irrelevant tangents. She still beat Vao and Sazen whereas Kas'im beat no one. Like it or not she is the demonstrably better duelist, whereas Kas'ims skill as a duelist is lacking as technical mastery isn't the same as dueling skill. Which you forget every time and think technical skill is an adequate replacement. You have no problem bashing Drallig who was fighting an infinitely superior duelist in Anakin, but will fellate over Kas'im due to his involvement with Bane. Now who has the obvious double standards? Jesus, I don't know why even a single person takes you seriously
Also lmfao @ Bashing Bane when I stated he could've likely beaten Kas'im if he didn't use Jar Kai:
Originally posted by carthage
Which is kind of what happened, the only reason Bane even lost that duel was because of Kas'im's utilization of Jar Kai. He probably could've beaten him by virtue of the nexus and his familiarity with all aspects of Kas'im's style.
Technical mastery is a decisive advantage only when combatants are comparable with the Force. Or, I suppose, if the other guy is a complete and total greenie. The Inquisitor is a great example of a guy who's clearly a technical master (dude is so familiar with the combat forms that he can identify a form and it's specific instructor after a brief exchange) but, per Filoni, he'd get wrecked by Obi-Wan.
Originally posted by carthage
Excuses, Excuses. For all of your harping of Kas'im's skill and going on about irrelevant tangents. She still beat Vao and Sazen whereas Kas'im beat no one. Like it or not she is the demonstrably better duelist, whereas Kas'ims skill as a duelist is lacking as technical mastery isn't the same as dueling skill. Which you forget every time and think technical skill is an adequate replacement. You have no problem bashing Drallig who was fighting an infinitely superior duelist in Anakin, but will fellate over Kas'im due to his involvement with Bane. Now who has the obvious double standards? Jesus, I don't know why even a single person takes you seriouslyAlso lmfao @ Bashing Bane when I stated he could've likely beaten Kas'im if he didn't use Jar Kai:
I'm not making any excuses, theres nothing to excuse. Nice of you to concede on your incorrect point about Bane's familiarity of Kas'im style though. Your standards of people only being good if they beat someone holds no water for me, so Talon isn't the demonstrably better duelist. Kas'im is, since he demonstrably has a stronger grasp of lightsaber combat than her.
I don't bash Drallig, I just say that he clearly can't compete with high level duelists so his technical mastery is rendered irrelevant, like Tempest said. Kas'im has no problems on that front since his speed, power and combat ability allows him to compete. He was the best Sith Warrior of the brotherhood, while Drallig was just a good instructor. Nice try though.
I'm talking about you bashing him in another thread, child.
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
How many of those Sith warriors have actual feats that represent a level of power and skill comparable to that of Banes?(cue the"featless" remark from Carthage) Talon is good, but not that good.
I'm not making any excuses, theres nothing to excuse. Nice of you to concede on your incorrect point about Bane's familiarity of Kas'im style though. Your standards of people only being good if they beat someone holds no water for me, so Talon isn't the demonstrably better duelist. Kas'im is, since he demonstrably has a stronger grasp of lightsaber combat than her.
I'm glad they hold no water to you, seeing as how I go by showings and all you do is wank. Kas'im's technical mastery mean nothing to me by the same extension, Talon is a better duelist because she has the feats to back it up-whereas Kas'im has all hype and hot air. If Kas'im is the "better duelist" than prove it with people he's beaten, that's the same challenge I issued to Bantha and it applies to you as well
I don't bash Drallig, I just say that he clearly can't compete with high level duelists so his technical mastery is rendered irrelevant. Kas'im has no problems on that front since his speed, power and combat ability allows him to compete. He was the best Sith Warrior of the brotherhood, while Drallig was just a good instructor. Nice try though.
They're both blademasters:check, they're both knowledgeable of most aspects of lightsaber combat: check, Kas'im is from Bane's era, has just as few showings as a duelist/is equally hyped as Drallig yet even as lauded as a "warrior" has killed no one but you dismiss Drallig because he's PT and didn't fight Bane: CHECK
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I don't think I can respond to this post without either quoting Tempest's double-standards picture or being grossly omniscient. :mmm:
That being said, they display blurs with their lightsaber blades (speed), and are powerful enough for some of them to be Darths, such as Darth Havok.
Taking on and defeating dozens of Sith Warriors while simultaneously avoiding lightsaber blades and force attacks everywhere and forming attacks of your own is impressive.
In addition, many showed skill in Jar'kai and intense acrobatic feats. Bane has really no feats at this point to suggest he can handle all these Sith Warriors, let alone Darth Talon.