Superman VS Thor: STRENGTH RANKING

Started by JBL37 pages

Originally posted by leonidas
that feat has been raised in the past. supes has held a black hole though. black hole trumps neutron star, as little sense as it actually makes....
A black hole the size of a quarter. Havoc held one also.

Originally posted by JBL
A black hole the size of a quarter. Havoc held one also.

You made ur point earlier, now you just sound bitter and low balling.

even the most massive black holes in existence (many MANY solar masses) BEGIN infinitesimally small then expand. iirc, superman prevented the expansion, so who knows how large it would have become. it had a bizarre origin though so, who really knows i suppose. and even if it was a quintillion solar masses, JBL would downplay it because haters gonna hate no matter how much evidence is shown. lol

Originally posted by h1a8
Each page has mass and thus weight. Infinite pages implies infinite weight.

This was the writer's intentions. Stop acting like this stuff really happened. It didn't. We go off writer's intentions and what is shown and stated in the comic.

He said NEARLY every other high herald. IMO, Superman is above ALL high heralds in strength. He simply has the best strength feats by a large margin.

And this is where you are wrong.

And even a miniature black hole 'once set free'...

Jbl's posts here shouldn't be taken seriously, he's an admittedly hater of superman's fans.

This time, he does have a point. The black hole was contained. Had a magnetic field around it. Can't remember if that field fully dispersed...does anyone have a scan of this?

Originally posted by carver9

And even a miniature black hole 'once set free'...

Ur point you goon? 😆

I just posted it above. I'm not trying to make a point, I'm asking a question.

A miniature black hole that would've destroyed the solar system...

Originally posted by Reflassshh
A miniature black hole that would've destroyed the solar system...

Agreed. Was the containment field ever removed? If so, do you have a scan of this? Just asking.

Originally posted by carver9
Agreed. Was the containment field ever removed? If so, do you have a scan of this? Just asking.
No it wasn't, but I'd imagine that a solar-system busting black hole pulling from inside out the gravitational field would need a good quantity of strength to be kept in check.

Not if the containment field held.

That's like me leaning on a damp Dam and taking credit for holding back the Resovoir.

It was about to explode though, in fact, when superman threw it to the worm hole it exploded instantly.

He and John had to reinforce the gravitational field in order to buy Kal some seconds to throw it into the wormhole before the explosion, otherwise it would have exploded as soon as it left superman's hands.

Sure but what percent of the barrier was Superman shoring up?

10%
50%
???

not sure what the discussion is about or where the ambiguity is coming from. superman clearly says IT IS BREAKING FREE.... we even see spacetime warping from the effects of the loosed black hole.

now, did the entire field collapse? THAT is different question, but i think the answer is pretty clearly no. my own interpretation of the feat is that superman reinforced the broken field with his own bio-aura or that he sealed the breach by pure physical strength. think of a small hole in a submarine at extreme depths, deep enough that the water coming in would penetrate the hull with the force of a high powered rifle. now imagine being strong enough to force that water BACK outside and being able to put your finger in the hole to seal it.

then multiply that by the near-infinite pressure exerted by a black hole. 🙂

my 2 cents on the feat.

Plugging a hole in a Sub can be done with putty...

Originally posted by Reflassshh
A miniature black hole that would've destroyed the solar system...
Attributing that kind of destructive force to the miniature black hole would mean that the magnetic field containing it was so powerful it was preventing solar system-wide collapse. Don't think that's the import of the scene.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Sure but what percent of the barrier was Superman shoring up?

10%
50%
???

impossible to say. not sure the % matters though. the field was clearly still falling about, so whatever it started at it seemed to continue to fracture.

and whether it was a tiny percent or a large one, the pressure would have been ludicrous.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Plugging a hole in a Sub can be done with putty...

well, metal from the sub can prevent the water too, so..... not the point. once the hole is created, resisting then reversing the pressure and containing it requires great force. or if it helps, think of superman as the putty resisting the nearly infinite pressure. either way works.