Superman VS Thor: STRENGTH RANKING

Started by Reflassshh37 pages

Originally posted by ODG
Attributing that kind of destructive force to the miniature black hole would mean that the magnetic field containing it was so powerful it was preventing solar system-wide collapse. Don't think that's the import of the scene.
It's stated in the comic though.

^ The comic stated that the machine was powerful enough to stop solar-system wide collapse? That's a pretty powerful machine then.

Originally posted by ODG
^ The comic stated that the machine was powerful enough to stop solar-system wide collapse? That's a pretty powerful machine then.
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It was said that if the black hole escaped the GF it would have destroyed the solar system. Not sure what's your point.

Originally posted by carver9
And this is where you are wrong.

Where am I wrong and why? Prove it.

Originally posted by carver9
Agreed. Was the containment field ever removed? If so, do you have a scan of this? Just asking.

Yes it was released, or rather the black hole busted through it.
Superman stated "Got it... before it fully released!"

This means Superman grabbed it before it was released from it's magnetic prison.

Superman then says "But the pressure... is unbelievable. Not sure how long...I can hold on."

That means the pressure released in his hands. He is now holding the raw black hole.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
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It was said that if the black hole escaped the GF it would have destroyed the solar system. Not sure what's your point.

I'm saying that I don't think the machine was generating a magnetic field so powerful it could suppress solar system-wide collapse.

Originally posted by ODG
I'm saying that I don't think the machine was generating a magnetic field so powerful it could suppress solar system-wide collapse.
Well you have missing logic that leads you to a faulty conclusion.

1. This is comics, machines can exist that destroy galaxies if the writer writes it to be. In star trek, they can create small devices to super nova a star, destroy a planet, etc.

2. I can use the same logic in many other feats, but will result in me trolling. For example, I can say that KT's blast aint shit since it didn't destroy CA's skeleton. Or that CA's skeleton is more durable than his shield. Same with Wolverine's jacket and Hulk's pants.

Originally posted by h1a8
Yes it was released, or rather the black hole busted through it.
Superman stated "Got it... before it fully released!"

This means Superman grabbed it before it was released from it's magnetic prison.

Superman then says "But the pressure... is unbelievable. Not sure how long...I can hold on."

That means the pressure released in his hands. He is now holding the raw black hole.

It didn't release.

Originally posted by h1a8
Where am I wrong and why? Prove it.

Maybe if you read some stuff you would know the answer to this.

Originally posted by ODG
I'm saying that I don't think the machine was generating a magnetic field so powerful it could suppress solar system-wide collapse.
So what's your explanation for the black hole not destroying the solar system then?

^ It was contained by what appeared to be a rather unextraordinary magnetic field. And by "unextraordinary," I mean that it didn't appear to be a solar system-level magnetic field.

So Superman exhibited enough strength to at least shore up, if not match the magnetic field's power.

And if the magnetic field itself wasn't solar system-level in power, then Superman himself did not need to exhibit solar system-level strength.

Originally posted by carver9
Maybe if you read some stuff you would know the answer to this.
So you would troll me? If you respond to my post then you must be willing to debate and support your claim. Otherwise you are flaming, which is against the rules.

Originally posted by carver9
It didn't release.
Superman stated that he grabbed it before it released. Also he stated that he feels the pressure of it expanding. If it didn't release then Superman wouldn't have said any of that.

Originally posted by ODG
^ It was contained by what appeared to be a rather unextraordinary magnetic field. And by "unextraordinary," I mean that it didn't appear to be a solar system-level magnetic field.

So Superman exhibited enough strength to at least shore up, if not match the magnetic field's power.

And if the magnetic field itself wasn't solar system-level in power, then Superman himself did not need to exhibit solar system-level strength.

It sounds reasonable, but there's nothing in the comic to support what you're saying though.

Originally posted by ODG
^ It was contained by what appeared to be a rather unextraordinary magnetic field. And by "unextraordinary," I mean that it didn't appear to be a solar system-level magnetic field.

So Superman exhibited enough strength to at least shore up, if not match the magnetic field's power.

And if the magnetic field itself wasn't solar system-level in power, then Superman himself did not need to exhibit solar system-level strength.

But the black hole busted through the field. Superman wasn't supporting the magnetic field at all. He was supplying all of the force to hold the black hole. The black hole was released from the field in his hand.

Obviously the field wasn't quite powerful enough to hold the black hole for long. That's why the black hole busted through the field.

If we go by looks then Bane will beat the shit out of Namor.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
It sounds reasonable, but there's nothing in the comic to support what you're saying though.
If you want to convince people that Superman exhibited solar system-level strength, then you have to prove the magnetic field was solar system-level in power.

I'm not concerned with proving the negative to you.

Originally posted by ODG
If you want to convince people that Superman exhibited solar system-level strength, then you have to prove the magnetic field was solar system-level in power.

I'm not concerned with proving the negative to you.

That's completely false. That's like saying, if you want to prove that a nuclear bomb is city destroying then you must prove that Hulk's pants are city destroying resistant as well. Or that CA's skeleton is more durable than his shield. For now, you seem to be trolling.

If the comic states that the black hole will destroy the solar system then it will. If a magnetic field is holding the black hole preventing it then obviously it is strong enough to do it (momentarily). There is nothing to prove really. This is comics.

Originally posted by ODG
If you want to convince people that Superman exhibited solar system-level strength, then you have to prove the magnetic field was solar system-level in power.

I'm not concerned with proving the negative to you.

To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, so in order to hold the BH back the gravitational field must have to exert an equal or superior force, at least until it starts to fail, there's where superman comes into the equation.

I feel the same, if you don't agree with me provide evidence to prove me wrong or leave it at that.

did it say somewhere in the text that it was capable of destroying the solar system and i'm just not remembering that bit?

Originally posted by 9jaboy
quanchi believes that superman is in another tier strengthwise than thor,that's why he is arguing for 10 times thor's strength....

And i like how some people ignored the absence of proof of WM for thor,and then attacked superman's lifting feat...

False. I think under normal circumstances Superman is stronger but not when the warrior madness comes into play.