Superman VS Thor: STRENGTH RANKING

Started by abhilegend37 pages

Originally posted by One-Punch
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That issue says nothing about the Soul Gem being only a doorway to Soul World. In fact Surfer even says he's "traversing the soul gem" while he was flying around inside Soul World.

Plus I've provided multiple (more recent) scans where the comic states Soul World is inside the Soul Gem.


Oh really? That's why Surfer said it was merely a dreamland? Or why Gamora and Adam Warlock both said it was a different plane of existence and reality other than main marvel universe in SS v3 46? Or how Warlock was outside Nebula's range of detection when he was inside Soul Gem because it wasn't part of the main universe.

Its nothing more than a doorway to soul world, a different reality.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Oh really? That's why Surfer said it was merely a dreamland? Or why Gamora and Adam Warlock both said it was a different plane of existence and reality other than main marvel universe in SS v3 46? Or how Warlock was outside Nebula's range of detection when he was inside Soul Gem because it wasn't part of the main universe.

Its nothing more than a doorway to soul world, a different reality.


None of what you said is incompatible with the Soul World dimension being inside the Soul Gem.

It's simple, provide even a single statement that says the Soul Gem is ONLY a doorway to Soul World. Should be easy right?

I've already provide on panel statements of Soul World being INSIDE the Soul Gem. It's your turn now.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I just skimmed through the issue and I can't even think how anybody believes it wasn't a solar system destroyer. In fact it was stated three times that it destroyed an entire galaxy.

Simply mind boggling denial to a simple feat.

Impressive.

Originally posted by One-Punch
None of what you said is incompatible with the Soul World dimension being inside the Soul Gem.

It's simple, provide even a single statement that says the Soul Gem is ONLY a doorway to Soul World. Should be easy right?

I've already provide on panel statements of Soul World being INSIDE the Soul Gem. It's your turn now.


So Soul Gem being a different plane of existence means its a part of main universe?

Here surfer directly states that soul world is just a dream.

Gotta love that logic. And Warlock or whoever lifted soul gem never indicated or exerted themselves to lift it. Superman and Captain Marvel were visibly strained to lift that book. Those two scenes are just too different.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So Soul Gem being a different plane of existence means its a part of main universe?

Here surfer directly states that soul world is just a dream.

Gotta love that logic. And Warlock or whoever lifted soul gem never indicated or exerted themselves to lift it. Superman and Captain Marvel were visibly strained to lift that book. Those two scenes are just too different.

You made a claim about something stated in the comic. One punch just proved you wrong so you ever lied or misremembered. Either one really undermines your credibility one more time.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Impressive.
Someone needs to reread the comic. Specifically the first three pages. The Mnemon went around taking memories doing stuff like making people forget how to keep fusion reactors in check and weather controlling satellites and WMDs. This caused nuclear holocausts. It did that systematically throughout a galactic empire. It didn't actually blow up a galaxy.

Not sure how you miss the very first three pages of the comic where it shows exactly this...

... oh, wait. Yes, I do. We all do.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Atom straight up said that the black hole would destroy solar system and the magnetic field is the only thing stopping it.

😂 at ODG's ass backward logic that since magnetic field stopped it, it wasn't a solar system level black hole. It destroyed solar systems on panel.

Superman directly sees the galaxy it had destroyed in its stolen memories

It had destroyed an entire galaxy.

And yeah, Superman had destroyed the magnetic field completely when he released Atom from it.

Somehow all these scans show dozens of planets being destroyed by nuclear Holocaust and somehow Atom's statement is negated too.

Oh the desperation to negate a superman feat is simply delicious.

Originally posted by quanchi112
False. I think under normal circumstances Superman is stronger.

That was the question though.

Imagine when quanchi thinks superman is stronger than thor...I feel like superman should move to high trans tier.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I just skimmed through the issue and I can't even think how anybody believes it wasn't a solar system destroyer. In fact it was stated three times that it destroyed an entire galaxy.

Simply mind boggling denial to a simple feat.

Incredible

Originally posted by abhilegend
So Soul Gem being a different plane of existence means its a part of main universe?

Here surfer directly states that soul world is just a dream.

Gotta love that logic. And Warlock or whoever lifted soul gem never indicated or exerted themselves to lift it. Superman and Captain Marvel were visibly strained to lift that book. Those two scenes are just too different.

So what if Soul World is a different plain of existence or if it's a dream? How does this prove the Soul Gem is only a doorway to Soul World? Especially when it's stated multiple times on panel that Soul World is INSIDE the Soul Gem.

I'm using the exact same logic as you with your "lifting the multiverse because it's inside a book" line of faulty reasoning.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Post proof this was the writer's intent. You made the claim son bf iously you read this somewhere or are lying and speaking for the writer.

The scan does not say infinite weight no matter how desperately you try to argue for it.

The writer tell us the book has infinite pages, this is followed by the emphasis he puts on it's weight with the heroes talking about how much effort they had to put in order to lift it.

Despite you trying so hard to twist it and use physics in your favour when it's a two way door.

You still have no proof I see whereas my argument Is supported by the comic, good debate.

Originally posted by ODG
Trying to invoke physics in a comic book where black holes suck memories out of people isn't proving that the magnetic field was solar system-level.

I don't have to disprove you. That you're content with simply putting your hands in your pocket and accusing people of not presenting proof as a strategy that validates or proves your opinion is ironic.

That is what you're doing though, making claims about how you think the magnetic field somehow isn't restraining the solar system black-hole.

Now I read you're theory about the chain reaction and I realize that it's even worse facepalm2

I wonder why people try to downplay Superman's feats instead of actually defending Thor's case with his own fts 😕

Originally posted by One-Punch
So what if Soul World is a different plain of existence or if it's a dream? How does this prove the Soul Gem is only a doorway to Soul World? Especially when it's stated multiple times on panel that Soul World is INSIDE the Soul Gem.

I'm using the exact same logic as you with your "lifting the multiverse because it's inside a book" line of faulty reasoning.


Because if it's a different plane, it is a different dimension from the main marvel universe and the gem which resides in the main universe. How can it be inside a gem in the main universe and be a different plane of existence? Both terms are contradictory by nature.

Multiverse was inside that book, growing like a speck. It wasn't a different plane of existence. Just the analogy of two objects is asinine.

And it's not the first time you have argued thus point Vince.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I know you're not serious with this but WTH.

Anyway, as its a world which is totally made and resided by souls, it has no mass. Science FTW.

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Soul gem and every other trinket which leads to a different dimension is merely a doorway and they are treated like that in comics.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
That is what you're doing though, making claims about how you think the magnetic field somehow isn't restraining the solar system black-hole.
Not what I said. And you've twisted my words. The magnetic field is restraining it. But what exactly is showing it is a solar system-level magnetic field? Like, if it wasn't restraining a dust speck black hole, you would expect that same magnetic field to encompass a solar system? You do know that Superman created a magnetic field with static electricity from rubbing his hands together to restrain it before dumping it in the wormhole?
Originally posted by Reflassshh
Now I read you're theory about the chain reaction and I realize that it's even worse facepalm2
It's not a theory. It's stated exactly on the first three pages of the comic:

Mnemon's purpose wasn't pure destruction. It systematically lifted the memories of people for preservation's sake (at all costs). But doing that caused havoc on every world he traveled to, hence the galactic empire crumbling planet by planet. Which he didn't care about since he relished the memories of people suffering during the destruction wrought. This is the exact plot of the comic book as it's stealing the JLA's memories. And how would Mnemon destroy galaxies under its own power if it's core had never been breached until its run-in with the JLA? Did you even read the comic?

Originally posted by Reflassshh
I wonder why people try to downplay Superman's feats instead of actually defending Thor's case with his own fts 😕
I wonder why people have to lie about feats and pretend like other people haven't read the comic book. But the reason is irrelevant. Because it's too pathetic to dissect and too worthless to do anything except expose and ridicule.

^Yeah, we will forget that it showed dozens of planets exploding simultaneously and somehow negate Atom's statement with it. And that mnemon could switch it's memory absorption and gravitational effect on its own.

We will just forget it because the great ODG is saying so.

I wonder why he didn't even mentioned Atom's statement.

Originally posted by ODG
Not what I said. And you've twisted my words. The magnetic field is restraining it. But what exactly is showing it is a solar system-level magnetic field? Like, if it wasn't restraining a dust speck black hole, you would expect that same magnetic field to encompass a solar system? You do know that Superman created a magnetic field with static electricity from rubbing his hands together to restrain it before dumping it in the wormhole? It's not a theory. It's stated exactly on the first three pages of the comic:

Mnemon's purpose wasn't pure destruction. It systematically lifted the memories of people for preservation's sake (at all costs). But doing that caused havoc on every world he traveled to, hence the galactic empire crumbling planet by planet. Which he didn't care about since he relished the memories of people suffering during the destruction wrought. This is the exact plot of the comic book as it's stealing the JLA's memories. And how would Mnemon destroy galaxies under its own power if it's core had never been breached until its run-in with the JLA? Did you even read the comic? I wonder why people have to lie about feats and pretend like other people haven't read the comic book. But the reason is irrelevant. Because it's too pathetic to dissect and too worthless to do anything except expose and ridicule.

Lol...ODG is owning. Good to have you back.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because if it's a different plane, it is a different dimension from the main marvel universe and the gem which resides in the main universe. How can it be inside a gem in the main universe and be a different plane of existence? Both terms are contradictory by nature.

Multiverse was inside that book, growing like a speck. It wasn't a different plane of existence. Just the analogy of two objects is asinine.

So let me get this straight...

You can't provide a single statement that says the Soul Gem is only a door way to Soul World.

I've provided 3 statements from the comics that says Soul World is inside the Soul Gem.

What do you think the conclusion is?

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...ODG is owning. Good to have you back.

Cheer some more girl😂

That you can't add 2+2? Soul world can't be a another dimension while it's inside soul gem.

And while you are at it, prove soul world's weight. Because it's pretty much a dream/soul made.