Kit Fisto vs Jedi Dooku

Originally posted by Marco1907
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=dmbMZyvdYtM#t=39

Savage simply defeated Anakin in a physical contest here, and there was no force rage either.

We don't know if that was purely physical or had an element of Tk to it. He does shout as he does that. I would suggest when they go flying like that it's probably Tk as well, given that Kenobi gets into an equal blade lock with both Maul and Opress in "Revival."

Also Opress will be physically stronger than Skywalker (even with his Cyborg arm), but add Force enhanced strength and Skywalker can match him. Without a doubt.

Skywalker didn't get Force back by Kenobi the way Opress did. In fact it was Skywalker who kept forcing Kenobi backwards.

@DP

Did you see Anakin vs. Clovis H2H combat battle ? After watching that, I feel like Savage or Maul would stomp Anakin in a H2H combat.

Anakin was also helpless against one Gundark, while Mace was capable of fighting against two.

Sidious - Mace - Maul - Savage, these are the most powerful physical fighters so far imo.

Originally posted by Marco1907
@DP

Did you see Anakin vs. Clovis H2H combat battle ? After watching that, I feel like Savage or Maul would stomp Anakin in a H2H combat.

Are you serious? He wasn't using any Force enhanced strength for that fight. He was making it a fair punch up.

Originally posted by Marco1907
Anakin was also helpless against one Gundark, while Mace was capable of fighting against two.

When was this? Show the scenes please. I'm sure there's context.

Anakin beat an IG-88 model droid in H2H. That's a frigging Assassin droid and he bashed it all up in "Hostage Crisis."

Originally posted by Marco1907
Sidious - Mace - Maul - Savage, these are the most powerful physical fighters so far imo.

If you're including Sidious then you're clearly talking "Force enhanced" strength on top of physical strength. In that case Anakin > Windu. Seen as Dooku has fought Windu without any problem, but couldn't handle the Immense Raw Power of Skywalker.

And wait is that in order? In which case you've put Maul above Savage in physical strength? Are you serious?

Did you read my respect thread ? You can see there that Spider Monster Maul's strength is good as Savage's strength.

As for Gundark Comparison ;

Anakin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixa25h-_FUI

Mace
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaP0C5IqGYw

And yet Maul can't over power Kenobi? And Skywalker Forces Kenobi back. Maul doesn't.

Windu lands some good hits on the Gundarks. Of course that could be him putting Shatterpoint to good use. Also That was early Clone Wars Skywalker. He became a lot more powerful later on.

But it can't be denied that Skywalker's strength was beyond what Dooku could handle. Windu's never was.

Better, Maul overpowered force raged TCW Kenobi, when he enraged him with dun moch about Qui-Gon's death.

Also here, disarms his lightsaber with ease.

Originally posted by Marco1907
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=dmbMZyvdYtM#t=39

Savage simply defeated Anakin in a physical contest here, and there was no force rage either.

Humhum.. Zavage conztantly uze force rage but for zure he can pazz through anakin guard without uzing force rage but that'z only theory...

Zometimez reading thiz can engerder bad effectz --->
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=9FHa_bNxXVo#t=545
Like thiz for example !!!

Originally posted by Marco1907
Better, Maul overpowered force raged TCW Kenobi, when he enraged him with dun moch about Qui-Gon's death.

Also here, disarms his lightsaber with ease.

So your evidence is to show me 1 instance of Maul overpowering an unbalanced Kenobi and 1 instance of Maul overpowering a Kenobi with a concussion?

Yeah, no. Skywalker wins the strength contest based on their fights with Kenobi.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
So your evidence is to show me 1 instance of Maul overpowering an unbalanced Kenobi and 1 instance of Maul overpowering a Kenobi with a concussion?

Yeah, no. Skywalker wins the strength contest based on their fights with Kenobi.

Reading that = zuicide.. You may kill your zelf after..

Kenobi overpowered Skywalker time to time too. They were completely matched.

Originally posted by Revanchiste
Reading that = zuicide.. You may kill your zelf after..

So Anakin being kicked in the face constitutes as Kenobi physical strength overpowering his own? Give me a break.

"Anakin roared and flew at him, using both the Force and his body to crash Obi-Wan back into the wall once more. His hands seized Obi-Wan's wrists with impossible strength, forcing his arms wide. "I am so sick of your lectures!"

Dark power bore down with his grip.

Obi-Wan felt the bones of his forearms bending, beginning to feather toward the greenstick fractures that would come before the final breaks.

Oh, he thought. Oh, this is bad."

-Revenge of the Sith

Gotta love Kenobi. Death is knocking at his door and he is just going "This is bad."

Originally posted by NewGuy01
So Anakin being kicked in the face constitutes as Kenobi physical strength overpowering his own? Give me a break.

Well, according to DP it is, because Kenobi managed to kick Maul a couple times.

Anyways, I believe this is a good example about Kenobi and Skywalker's strength difference.

Kenobi vs. Maul

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Matches with Bruu-Jun Fan's strength

Matches with Vader's strength

Originally posted by Marco1907
Well, according to DP it is, because Kenobi managed to kick Maul a couple times.

Originally posted by Marco1907
Kenobi vs. Maul

That was after the fact that Maul and Savage ambushed Kenobi and knocked him unconscious, no doubt he'd be disoriented and hurt 😬

Originally posted by Marco1907
Well, according to DP it is, because Kenobi managed to kick Maul a couple times.

When did I mention kicks?

I said Anakin drove Kenobi backwards to a much greater extent than Maul ever did. That's because Anakin's tremendous raw power (and Cyborg arm) makes him much stronger than Kenobi. And stronger than Maul for that matter.

The extract from the novel that Newguy quoted is proof of that, on top of many many other examples from the novel. Including how Dooku was just in complete Awe of Skywalker's strength and raw power.

Honestly Marco, the "proofs" your providing here are pretty lame. Proofs including Kenobi recovering from a previous concussion and Anakin/Obi-Wan holding each others arms. after both tiring from a long drawn out fight.

Skywalker was the one who was Driving Kenobi backwards most the fight, and Skywalker the one who had Kenobi in a choke which Kenobi couldn't break with his Strength alone.

Originally posted by Marco1907
Did you read my respect thread ? You can see there that Spider Monster Maul's strength is good as Savage's strength.

As for Gundark Comparison ;

Anakin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixa25h-_FUI

Mace
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaP0C5IqGYw

WIndu iz more direct...

But If I take Darth Revan V.Z Gundak holy zhit Poor gundak... Revan anihilate an army of rancor XD.
Why windu don't uze the force to uze hiz environement intead of waiting hiz light zaber which are notr eally decide to moove hiz azz from the hand of the cultizt? And why kenobi iz waiting?

Bazed on their phyzical and not feat (becauze ztrengh can be influented by the uze of force ztrenhg enhancement...) Maul have the edge becauze he iz a well trained zabrak...
Phyzical ztrengh iz more ztable.... Wher total ztrengh iz not a fix valor.. Zo feat are meaninglezz....

Revanchiste, stop spamming with repeated lines.