Force Power
Tier 10Father (top)
Son (mid)
Daughter (mid)
Abeloth (mid)
Luke Skywalker (low)Tier 9
Sidious (top)
Yoda (mid)
Darth Plagueis (low)
Mother Talzin (low)
Darth Vitiate (low)Tier 8
Darth Caedus (top)
Revan (top)
Darth Nihilus (top)
Galen Marek / Starkiller (top/mid)
Darth Vader (top/mid)
Darth Traya (mid)
Count Dooku (mid)
Darth Krayt (mid)
Darth Malgus (low)
Exar Kun (low)
Mace Windu (low)
Kyp Durron (low)
Nyriss (low)
Anakin Skywalker (low / top Tier 7)Tier 7
Leia Organa Solo (top)
Mara Jade Skywalker (top)
Shaak Ti (top)
Darth Maul (top)
Saesee Tiin (top)
An'ya Kuro (top)
Plo Koon (top/mid)
The Exile (mid)
Darth Malak (mid)
Savage Opress (mid)
Asajj Ventress (low)
Sora Bulq (low)
Obi-Wan Kenobi (low)
Kit Fisto (low)
Ki-Adi-Mundi (low)
Agen Kolar (low / top Tier 6)Tier 6
Quinlan Vos (top)
Neja Halcyon (top)
If my list wasn't that awful, what would you change guys? And with which ones you agree?
Let's start with Tier 10 perhaps? The Ones placement is quite allright in my opinion. So is placement for Luke, I guess. The only doubt is: should be DE Sidious low Tier 10, and Yoda top Tier 9? Or perhaps is it allright like this?
Originally posted by ILS
I don't think there is anything truly solid enough on Kun to suggest he's stronger than Vader. It's hard to compare him to later Sith because a lot of his power comes from implications, accolades, and less quantifiable powers like Sith Sorcery. At best you can put him on-par with Vader, but I think a spot between Malgus and Vader seems realistic.
The narrative of Specters of the Past states Palpatine and Kun specifically over anyone else Luke faced were the greatest focal points of the Dark Side.
Oh and Kevin J Anderson calling him the strongest of all his characters isn't to be ignored.
Originally posted by Selenial
I actually did! My Daughter has had a Tardis plushie since birth, and a Yoda one, my son had a Vader one and a Tardis.They're both way too young to even understand the concept of a franchise, but I found an adorable homemade Revan plushie online that I had to buy for him, so yeh 😄
Aw, that's so cool!
I managed to get my hands on a Darth Revan action figure, after trying for so long! 😛
Originally posted by McP
I placed her below them.Kun's attack on the Senate was quite impressive, but the fact that he was unable to freeze Jedi leaves some doubts.
Vitiate's mind control over strong Force sensitives like Revan or Malak was faaaar more impressive then that Kun's feat.
Except Exar Kun was directing that spell on the Senate specifically, without any prep. Oh and Vodo never standing a chance against him in their combat because of Kun's 'deep reserves of Dark power' is even more impressive considering he is still freezing the senate. By the way the Senate is over 10,000 strong at this point in time so it's superb as a display of magnitude.
Originally posted by McP
If my list wasn't that awful, what would you change guys? And with which ones you agree?Let's start with Tier 10 perhaps? The Ones placement is quite allright in my opinion. So is placement for Luke, I guess. The only doubt is: should be DE Sidious low Tier 10, and Yoda top Tier 9? Or perhaps is it allright like this?
The Ones should have their own tier, whilst Luke and DE Sidious top tier 10 (along with a few others)
Originally posted by AncientPowerWasn't Kun surrounded by and drawing on external power during the time Luke met him? And that was after absorbing the thousands of massassi, which isn't his own power.
The narrative of Specters of the Past states Palpatine and Kun specifically over anyone else Luke faced were the greatest focal points of the Dark Side.Oh and Kevin J Anderson calling him the strongest of all his characters isn't to be ignored.
I don't think Anderson created any characters stronger than Vader. Where is that quote from anyway?
@Dmb
I agree, that's why i placed Luke in the same Tier with Ones (but in the lower part). After all, he was near equal enemy to Abeloth in single combat, wasn't he?
So he's the only guy, that deserves to be in that Tier. And it's probably his highest prime. Prime Anakin would be on Father's section, or even above him.
Originally posted by ILS
Wasn't Kun surrounded by and drawing on external power during the time Luke met him? And that was after absorbing the thousands of massassi, which isn't his own power.I don't think Anderson created any characters stronger than Vader. Where is that quote from anyway?
Considering it is stated he was starving for energy and forced to slumber without choice I highly doubt it, oh and Kun used that power to empower the Apparatus for the ritual, allowing it to unleash his spirit.
Kun is in a really really weak state for a few thousand years, even defeated by random spacers as they slaughtered his cult. It is clear that he needs to draw on Force Users that come to Yavin IV to gain any strength.
Merchant posted it once.
Originally posted by McP
@Dmb
I agree, that's why i placed Luke in the same Tier with Ones (but in the lower part). After all, he was near equal enemy to Abeloth in single combat, wasn't he?
So he's the only guy, that deserves to be in that Tier. And it's probably his highest prime. Prime Anakin would be on Father's section, or even above him.
Now that I think about it, Mendor Typhoons and the Matukai should be above everybody else in dueling, force abilities, and all out.
They wield infinite power, their power constantly increases exponentially, and of their weaker members could stomp any Jedi or Sith in physical combat, and they are absolute masters of the force that are>>>>>>Jedi. They're like the ****ing super-saiyans of Star Wars.
Mendor Typhoons is the greatest of them, and he was revered as "The Typhoons of the Matukai." He is also far more powerful than any Jedi because he called Yoda an *******, and can fire force spheres of infinite destruction semi-automatically like a force machine gun.