KMC Star Wars Community Tier effort

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Yeah, but jsut as Carthage already noted - it's hard to place Bane on that list, because he only fought on DS Nexuses

He might be low tier 8 or high tier 7, he's got powerful lightning by his TK feats off nexus are really weak. He has no good showings of barrier or deflecting either, his only notable force ability is lightning.

How about that canonical source stating Bane is among the most powerful Sith in history?

Tier 8? IDK. Bane really has nothing other than lightning though.

Cool? Guys like Fisto and Kolar have canonical quotes stating to be among the mightiest Jedi ever as well. But they are still in the "lower" tiers as well. I mean the characters we are listing here are pretty much all Jedi/Sith that are in the top percentile of strength, so most of them are among the greatest.

Well...it'd be possible to reverse engineer Bane's strength.

To do this, you take the power of his lightning off nexus, and compare it to the power of his lightning on nexus. That'll give you an idea of how much of an amp he receives. You could do the same with his TK.

Also, he does deserve some credit for being a 'scholar of the force' and all that studying he did.

Why on earth does Luke have a tier of his own in sabers? He's at best only slightly better than Caedus in that regard, it's the Force rankings where he should have a tier of his own tbh.

And why is Vader a tier above Jaina and Obi-Wan in dueling? lol

He doesn't have his own tier in dueling, he's in the same as Yoda, Sidious, and Caedus.

Not on the Comicvine list.

The list here is edited differently.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Not on the Comicvine list.
I think the general understanding is that Luke needs to be in tier 10 otherwise it would be vacant, and moving anyone else up to tier 10 would destroy the structure of the rankings, because part of what the tier is based on is Yoda, Sidious, Windu and Anakin being tier 9s as duelists, as per Gillard.

I'm not sure Caedus and Yoda qualify as Tier 10 sabers. Sidious definitely does.

Out of every issue with the list... we are worrying about this? Seriously!?

I'm not sure. At the time of ROTS Yoda was slightly better duelist. Hard to tell if ROTJ Sidious was better then his ROTS self. I doubt it.
I also doubt, that DE Luke was better duelist then Yoda. Or at least his equal. He wasn't in my opinion. And also, Sidious hadn't his oryginal body, only that weak copies. So I also doubt, that he was stronger as a duelist then before.

I would place Yoda, Sidious, Mace, Dooku and Anakin as Tier 9 duelists. Yoda/Sidious would be top of this Tier, possibly with Caedus. Dooku/Mace might be mid part of this Tier and Anakin would be mid/low part.
Or, Yoda, Sidious and Caedus would be the mid Tier, Luke would be top and Anakin, Mace and Dooku would be low.

More then that, Yoda, Sidious and Luke are far superior Force users, their Force valor skills are also superior, which make them even more superior to the others.

So, two options from me:

Tier 10:
Luke

Tier 9:
Yoda (top)
Sidious (top)
Caedus (top)
Mace (mid)
Dooku (mid)
Anakin (mid/low)

or:

Tier 9:
Luke (top)
Sidious (mid)
Yoda (mid)
Caedus (mid)
Dooku (low)
Mace (low)
Anakin (low)

You forgot a ton of characters, dude.

Not at all. As I remember, Plagueis was loosing in pure technical duel to Venamis. He's my top/mid Tier 8. Tenebrous might be level 9 low Tier.

I consider Vader as top/mid Tier 8 duelist. If most of you will disagree with me, then ok. I can accept Vader as low Tier 9 duelist. Anyway, I doubt Lumyia is. Revan might be low Tier 9 as well, but I consider him more like top Tier 8.

The list was dueling, correct? If it was dueling, you forgot a fair amount. If it was Force, you forgot like a million characters.

Yeah, list of technical dueling skills. Who was forgoten by me for example? Malgus? I also consider him as a Tier 8 duelist.

I vote Luke and Sidious in Tier 10, Yoda and Caedus topping out Tier 9.

Tulak Hord, Exar Kun, Ulic Qel-Droma (?), Darth Malak (?), Darth Malgus (?), Second Emperor's Wrath (?), Hero of Tython (?), Darth Bane, Darth Plagueis (?), and Darth Krayt.