Originally posted by Emperordmb
Anyone who assumes Vitiate needs a nexus and prep to do anything, or that he'd be speedblitzed, or that he's some weak feeb is underrating him.Anyone whose putting him on The Ones' level is overrating him.
You're pretty much the last person in this Star wars subforum that should be talking about underrating/overrating a character.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
They don't underrate Vitiate. They're overrating others.
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I don't think I underestimate Vitiate, I'm happy to take his feats into account as long as I'm not debating against Neph or Legend, because yes I then turn full troll as I can't be assed to deal with the dark side god bull shit.
But yeh, the Talzin wank has been real recently. Other than that I can't remember many Vitiate topics. 😕
Originally posted by The_Tempest
You talking to FS or me?
You.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
They don't underrate Vitiate. They're overrating others.
Angel believes Vitiate needs prep to lift a finger, Stigma finds Vitiate blitz-able (if I remember correctly,) and Selenial finds ROTS Sidious and beings of that level capable of slaughterhousing Vitiate. There's some obvious underration/misinterpretation/laemness occurring here.
Originally posted by psmith81992
I didn't say it's invalid to dock points. I said that even as a ritual, what Vitiate did was still more impressive than what Sidious did in my opinion.
That's fine. But you took umbrage with those caveats and I'm simply explaining why people typically aren't as impressed by such things, right or wrong.
Originally posted by psmith81992
I've ready very little from Legend but I do know S66 has been here for years spouting the same nonsense.
So has LeGenD. And it's not like Vitiate wank is anything brand new, either.
Originally posted by psmith81992
There was no "requirement". That was how many were used, whether by choice or not. Just like the entire Jedi that came before Brand were not "required" to hold Sidious' spirit, just how many were used.
Then let's say "involved."
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
You.Angel believes Vitiate needs prep to lift a finger, Stigma finds Vitiate blitz-able (if I remember correctly,) and Selenial finds ROTS Sidious and beings of that level capable of slaughterhousing Vitiate. There's some obvious underration/misinterpretation/laemness occurring here.
When have I ever said Slaughterhouse?
Sidious would beat him, I don't ever remember saying Slaughterhouse because that simply isn't true.
Unless the phrase "One tier" or "Dark side god" had been muttered earlier in the thread, in which case I can believe id say that.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
That's fine. But you took umbrage with those caveats and I'm simply explaining why people typically aren't as impressed by such things, right or wrong.So has LeGenD. And it's not like Vitiate wank is anything brand new, either.
Then let's say "involved."
Your covert Vitiate wank hasn't escaped unnoticed 😉
Originally posted by psmith81992
Ok so? He "involved" 8,000 sith lords, destroyed everything on the planet within 10 days, removed the force, and became immortal. Meanwhile Sidious drained the inhabitants of Byss and did exactly what?
Created a vast energy pool to sustain his dark side experiments {Book of Sith}.
Originally posted by Selenial
I do wonder, if we wiped Neph and Legends posts from the pages of history, would this poll be conpletely reversed?Or would there not be any blatant underestimation, as most of that was birthed from their ridiculous wankery...
I guess we'll never know.
My "ridiculous wankery" is that I put him in the top 5 Sith, don't think he can be easily speedblitzed and put him on the same tier as Sidious. Terribly unreasonable, I know.
The character is severely underrated from HoT to Sidious.
He was far more powerful than both.
Well, not DE Sidious, they were actually more or less peers in terms of power level.
Consider, DE Sidious has Force storms, yet Vitiate has more abilities overall. Vitiate is to DE Sidious as Dooku is to Malgus IMHO.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Yes, but you reaffirmed your position towards me, not LeGenD. I can provide 3-4 quotes of your laemness.
Do not mistake me, I believe Talzin would beat Vitiate when she's at full strength on Dathomir. She has better one on one lighting, her force barriers are some of the most impressive we've ever seen. She can dominate Dooku which honestly makes me doubt Vitiate could TP her, since his best feats (Children, Voice etcetera) were all rituals and took weeks, sometimes years, to turn into effect. You cannot TK dust, and her teleportation allows her a quick entry into blade combat unlike how Revan started. That's an area vitiate is weak in.
Lastly with Maul and Savage there for her to draw strength off, Any powerful attacks Vitiate can conjure she can repel.
No it wouldn't be a slaughter, yes she'd have to work for it. The only reason I said slaughter was that Neph and Legend lost their shit when I did...
Originally posted by Oneness
The character is severely underrated from HoT to Sidious.He was far more powerful than both.
Well, not DE Sidious, they were actually more or less peers in terms of power level.
Consider, DE Sidious has Force storms, yet Vitiate has more abilities overall. Vitiate is to DE Sidious as Dooku is to Malgus IMHO.
More abilities overall?
Didn't Sidious canonically master every Sith Art in existence?
Originally posted by Selenial
I do wonder, if we wiped Neph and Legends posts from the pages of history, would this poll be conpletely reversed?Or would there not be any blatant underestimation, as most of that was birthed from their ridiculous wankery...
I guess we'll never know.