Magneto Vs The Ray

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Pre-Flashpoint Ray

DCnU Ray

Magneto does the same thing to Ray that he did to Proteus. It's easier this time around though.

bad match up for ray....

Magneto

Ray's underrated these days, but he was built up as pretty monsterously powerful back in the day. Took down both Triumph and Dr. Polaris, two DC villains with magnetic powers, for what that's worth.

And didn't Monica just phase through Mags shield in her energy form? Ray's energy form is light, and light penetrates his barrior, so why couldn't Ray do the same thing?

Originally posted by cdtm
Ray's underrated these days, but he was built up as pretty monsterously powerful back in the day. Took down both Triumph and Dr. Polaris, two DC villains with magnetic powers, for what that's worth.

And didn't Monica just phase through Mags shield in her energy form? Ray's energy form is light, and light penetrates his barrior, so why couldn't Ray do the same thing?

Yeah, in Avengers V X-Men series. Not the last one. I wonder if Magneto can defend against someone who can move FTL.

Also, when Ray is in energy form, he can't be physically harmed as when he fought Lobo.

I think this is a good match.

Originally posted by Golgo13
I think this is a good match.

Really?

Really.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Really.

How does Magneto stop the Ray in light form? My first thought was stomp in Ray's favor.

have you seen what he did to proteus? and proteus is/was an absolute monster. exiles proteus was freakin great. monica has actually gotten through his shields a couple times in the past though. he has however shown that he can modulate the frequency of his shielding pretty easily. if he did that, he could easily keep her or ray out then take his time, study ray's form a bit then....:

Originally posted by Philosophía
[b]Magneto vs Proteus

*Magneto is dying and not at full power
*Magneto can manipulate forms of energy even outside of the electromagnetic spectrum -- and does so by taking control of Proteus's body and modifying his energy matrix.
"Energy, Proteus. Just electrons dancing."
[/B]

only difference is ray isn't some utterly foreign form of energy, and isn't a reality warper. mags has shown enormous control over em radiation in the past. it's just sometimes forgotten by writers who believe all he controls is magnetism. a well written mags would handle ray just fine. a less than well written mags could have some problems i guess.

Can Mag's deal with a light speedster, though?

I don't doubt he could do something to Ray, given enough time. The thing is, Ray's about as big a hothead as Guy Gardner, but has even less restraint when it comes to holding back.

Hell, he killed his father, Happy, during one of his tantrums. In the legal sense. Stopped his heart for a time, and barely managed to resuscitate him.

Is this Magneto at his Prime Golgo or is this current Mags that is weakened?

Anyways...Ray can be a problem as shown here...

But there are counters. It depends on the Mags that is being used here.

Going for Mags 7/10.

but this ain't mo bad match up.

Ray has control over his energy form. Proteus had divided himself and was weakened.

Originally posted by cdtm
Can Mag's deal with a light speedster, though?

I don't doubt he could do something to Ray, given enough time. The thing is, Ray's about as big a hothead as Guy Gardner, but has even less restraint when it comes to holding back.

Hell, he killed his father, Happy, during one of his tantrums. In the legal sense. Stopped his heart for a time, and barely managed to resuscitate him.

Originally posted by cdtm
Ray's underrated these days, but he was built up as pretty monsterously powerful back in the day. Took down both Triumph and Dr. Polaris, two DC villains with magnetic powers, for what that's worth.

And didn't Monica just phase through Mags shield in her energy form? Ray's energy form is light, and light penetrates his barrior, so why couldn't Ray do the same thing?

Originally posted by Golgo13
Yeah, in Avengers V X-Men series. Not the last one. I wonder if Magneto can defend against someone who can move FTL.

Also, when Ray is in energy form, he can't be physically harmed as when he fought Lobo.

I think this is a good match.

Like it's already been mentioned, Ray has beaten people with a power set similar to Magneto's. It was stated on panel that Ray can become any form of energy in the EM Spectrum not just light (it was in an issue of Final Crisis I think).

The best part is, Ray's control over his energy form is so absolute that even ANTI-MATTER couldn't destroy him. He was warped by it, but he quickly reconstituted himself.

As we've already seen on panel, energy based beings can go right through Magneto's force fields and zap him.

I'm going with pre DCNu Ray. No idea how powerful DCNu Ray is so no comment there.

Hey Zop, do you know the issue number where Ray traveled in time under his own speed?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hey Zop, do you know the issue number where Ray traveled in time under his own speed?

really, this it will just come down to a matter of who you believe would have the greater control over em radiation in the end. i'd take mags at his best.

Abhi, I was meaning to upload the scans, but got caught up rereading. (I could never just breeze by the bit with the white trust fund babies, the black wanna be gangsters, and Ray working a KFC type window.)

I'll try and get them up today.