Originally posted by TheHulk
Omega level mutant needs to have abilities that contain unlimited power. Mags powers covers the entire EM spectrum and can do a lot of crazy shit with it. But it ends there so that is why people still classify him as an alpha level mutant.Hulk is an omega level threat. Their is a difference between calling a threat and classifying a mutant abilities.
Magneto powers doesn't just stop at Earth though. He can pull energy from the planet's in the solar system.
Gotcha...Omega level threat and Omega level classifications are two different things.
Oh yeah, Ray's much faster then Northstar... in straight line movement speed.
His reflex's are a different story. Future Bart Allen proved they're not on his level, and there's the fact Ray had to keep slowing down to adjust his course for interstellar travel.
But straight line works just fine for his usual MO of charging through someone, or blasting them.
Originally posted by cdtm
Oh yeah, Ray's much faster then Northstar... in straight line movement speed.His reflex's are a different story. Future Bart Allen proved they're not on his level, and there's the fact Ray had to keep slowing down to adjust his course for interstellar travel.
But straight line works just fine for his usual MO of charging through someone, or blasting them.
Originally posted by carver9
Don't think speed is the issue here. Not only has Mags flown the speed of light but he has also grabbed a blitzing Northstar like nothing.http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111113932/3456395-8681486931-Magne.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111113932/3456397-3628870967-Magne.jpg
Good for him, but he caught northstar who wasn't serious or near his top speed. What happened when he got serious? He instantly tagged Magneto and flew into space to save Paulie. Why didn't Magento grab him there? hmmmmm?
Northstar also went escape velocity, which is nothing QS at the time was capable of so that comment is way off him being slower.
In summary, Northstar was clearly going much slower then usual which allowed magneto to grab him. Heck, Sasquatch has caught Northstar that mean Walter has FTL reflexes too?
Originally posted by zopzop
Just a comment on the scene with Magneto reacting to Northstar's attack. He caught him and claimed Northstar was "nowhere near as fast as his son." Which is 100% bullsh|t.The writer was an idiot so take that into consideration when discussing whether Magneto would react in time to a light speed blitz from a herald level being (aka Ray).
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Well at that time Northstar couldn't go lightspeed. So the point is moot. When serious he had no troubles tagging Magneto and flew off into space to save paulie.
Originally posted by abhilegend
No idea actually.
http://www.space.com/7678-black-hole-closer-earth-thought.html
he researchers determined that the black hole V404 Cygni is located 7,800 light-years from Earth ? or just slightly more than half the distance that was previously assumed.That puts it relatively nearby to Earth, where the distance to the center of the galaxy is about 26,000 light-years, and the nearest star beyond the sun is a mere 4.2 light-years away.
Since the feat happened with a 1994 understanding of astronomy, can we say it was around 14,000-16,000 light years? 😱
Originally posted by -K-M-
Good for him, but he caught northstar who wasn't serious or near his top speed. What happened when he got serious? He instantly tagged Magneto and flew into space to save Paulie. Why didn't Magento grab him there? hmmmmm?Northstar also went escape velocity, which is nothing QS at the time was capable of so that comment is way off him being slower.
In summary, Northstar was clearly going much slower then usual which allowed magneto to grab him. Heck, Sasquatch has caught Northstar that mean Walter has FTL reflexes too?
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Well at that time Northstar couldn't go lightspeed. So the point is moot. When serious he had no troubles tagging Magneto and flew off into space to save paulie.
He wasn't serious? Not seeing Magneto doing anything to Ray now. Especially since he's much faster.
Originally posted by Existere
Also, Magneto's not an Omega level mutant, unless something has changed in recent years.
Originally posted by leonidas
nope, that has not changed. that doesn't mean alpha mutants like xavier and magneto can't beat omegas though.
I remember it was just a theory. Magneto's clone Joseph was stated to possibly have unlimited power or potential and Mags and Joseph had no difference, only the other had better use of his power....blah can't remember the details.
Originally posted by TheHulk
Seriously? Who is omega level then? If Franklin, Cable and MJJ aren't classified as Omega then i don't know what one is.
I didn't know that Cable and Franklin had been downgraded.
But X-Man, Kid Omega, Elixir, Hope, Jean, Iceman and Vulcan were at least classified as Omega level mutants.
They tacked on some new shits in v3, but I haven't read that yet.
Originally posted by Golgo13
He wasn't serious? Not seeing Magneto doing anything to Ray now. Especially since he's much faster.
the fact that northstar was only doing....mach 10 or whatever is STILL pretty amazing, as he was trying to zip around. the only thing mags needs to do is raise a shield, not grab him like he did northstar--though lobo certainly had no troubles, multiple times. so, not sure why you're so convinced of....anything really. cdtm already said it's straight line motion. once the battle starts and mags has a shield his speed is nerfed anyway.
cdtm--any combat speed feats you're aware of for ray?
