Ra's al ghul vs Captain America (unarmed h2h)

this is a good fight but I think Caps superior stats would get him the W here, he'd know he was in a fight though thats for sure

Originally posted by relentless1
this is a good fight but I think Caps superior stats would get him the W here, he'd know he was in a fight though thats for sure

thread belongs in the toilet, Cap shitstomps, curbstomps, etc

I havent seen the last episode of Arrow, but from previous episodes we just havent seen enough of what Ras can do to accurately compare him to all that were seen Cap do.

Spite, Capt stomps badly.

you Marvel zombies are a hoot...you really think that Cap will just walk all over Ras? the ONLY thing that Cap has in this fight going for him is his raw physical stats, Ras from arrow is a dad to Steve in the realm of skills and if it wasn't for Caps superior physicality he'd get smaaashed

Originally posted by relentless1
you Marvel zombies are a hoot...you really think that Cap will just walk all over Ras? the ONLY thing that Cap has in this fight going for him is his raw physical stats, Ras from arrow is a dad to Steve in the realm of skills and if it wasn't for Caps superior physicality he'd get smaaashed

And if Ra's wasn't immortal he'd be in a retirement home suffering from senility and a bad hip. They both need their abilities so what's your point?

Originally posted by KingD19
And if Ra's wasn't immortal he'd be in a retirement home suffering from senility and a bad hip. They both need their abilities so what's your point?

Check out all his posts that involve a member of the batfamily, he is a massive fanboy.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Check out all his posts that involve a member of the batfamily, he is a massive fanboy.

So it's pot calling the kettle black. Figures.

please, I vote for Marvel guys when I think they can win...I just voted for Cap here but you braindead spammers dont bring that up, what I'm saying is is that it won't be an easy win for Cap and if you really think that Cap will just steamroll Ras then you're not thinking objectively.

I am not vicious against Cap. I was trying to state that the disparity between skill is massive so Cap needs the boost of his stats to fight this guy. Remember at the beggining of WS. Cap fought that guy on the boat and had some trouble. Ra's would give Cap the arrow treatment if Cap wasn't super human. But since Cap is super human it could go either way

Cap didn't have any real trouble with him, the second Cap got serious the fight was over. Why aren't you using Cap's fight with WS or Loki or the Spec Ops guys in the elevator?

Loki isn't a super crazy martial artist and Cap threw like 2 punches before it was interrupted by iron man. Sw is impressive but he hasn't trashed a well established martial artist like Ra's did. And Cap had trouble taking the guys in the elevator. He simply isn't as skilled as Ra's. Not even close. But he has the physical stats to close the gap

I'd like to see you prove that Ra's could do even 1/5th as well against that many spec ops soldiers while in an enclosed space and with one arm in a magnetic cuff.

Every time you bring up Cap's stats. I'm gonna bring up the fact that Ra's is 78 years old and is according to a direct interview functionally immortal. If not for his immortality he'd be in a nursing home.

Also Bucky at the time Cap fought him was pretty much one of if not the top assassin in the world. And shown by their fight, they're both pretty damned skilled and capable of moving at speeds faster than Ra's and Ollie. Hitting harder, etc...

Even against Batroc like SM pointed out, as soon as he realized he wasn't a pushover and got serious, he ended the fight instantly.

So let's not act like he fought a featless wonder.

King. The fact that he is 78 doesn't matter because he is in a much younger body. Unless he is going to age 20 years in the span of a fist fight then his actual age shouldn't matter. He could be 1000 years old but as long as he isn't in the body of a 1000/year old it has no bearing on the fight

Originally posted by WildBantha88
King. The fact that he is 78 doesn't matter because he is in a much younger body. Unless he is going to age 20 years in the span of a fist fight then his actual age shouldn't matter. He could be 1000 years old but as long as he isn't in the body of a 1000/year old it has no bearing on the fight

You guys keep saying, "If Cap didn't have the SSS, he wouldn't even last in this fight." Over and over.

I'm pointing out how "If Ra's wasn't immortal(as it directly stated by his actor Matt Nable), he'd be a 78 year old man in a 78 year old man's body. (78 is the youngest possible age. He could actually be older)

You see what I'm getting at?

It doesn't matter because that's what their characters are. Cap is Cap because of the Serum. Ra's is Ra's because his immortality let him gain all those skills. But the Ra's side keeps bringing up how Cap can only hang because of the serum, so I'm gonna keep bringing up how Ra's can only hang because he's immortal.

Cap still wins by the way. Highly skilled and physical stats far beyond Ra's make it Cap's fight to lose.

So where is the proof that Ra's could replicate Cap's feats?

Originally posted by KingD19
You guys keep saying, "If Cap didn't have the SSS, he wouldn't even last in this fight." Over and over.

I'm pointing out how "If Ra's wasn't immortal(as it directly stated by his actor Matt Nable), he'd be a 78 year old man in a 78 year old man's body. (78 is the youngest possible age. He could actually be older)

You see what I'm getting at?

It doesn't matter because that's what their characters are. Cap is Cap because of the Serum. Ra's is Ra's because his immortality let him gain all those skills. But the Ra's side keeps bringing up how Cap can only hang because of the serum, so I'm gonna keep bringing up how Ra's can only hang because he's immortal.

Cap still wins by the way. Highly skilled and physical stats far beyond Ra's make it Cap's fight to lose.

Caps ability to fight is completely dependent on his SSS.

Your comparison kind of falls flat because of that.

That said, I agree. Why are people bringing up cap pre-SSS?

Originally posted by Arachnid1
The immortality doesn't factor into Ra's skill set. It just brings him back to life and deages him if he is to die. It doesn't give him super speed/strength, greater agility, greater fighting skills, or anything.

Caps ability to fight is completely dependent on his SSS.

Your comparison kind of falls flat because of that.

It factors into his ability to fight. A 78 year old man or older in an appropriately aged body will not be in anything near fighting shape. He'll be lucky to be able to walk normal speed at that age.