Originally posted by RobtardI believe you are serious with your comments too. Dehydrating! Keyword for losing water weight.
I said water and fat. Professional athletes can lose a lot of weight just by dehydrating themselves though, you should now thatYou should know that there's nothing you can teach me about the body and training that I don't already know
The pics say otherwise
Because I took the rest of your money and then gave you the finger
Originally posted by RobtardNo one denied him being more lean, you make the statement that he had bigger muscles. There was never a discussion about did he have more muscles or was he more defined or lean, it was his muscles bigger.
Being proven wrong does make people mad. I've never been mad thoughThat's not a lie, Rocky II was chubbier (higher fat %) than Rocky IV, who was a lean, mean and shredded machine, look at the pics already
We aren't going to agree.
But on topic, we never see Apollo truly in his prime since he admits to Rocky in part II that when they fought he no longer had the hungry.
Still, if Drago can't close in 5 rounds then he definitely loses to Apollo from part II.
In the words of Apollo, "Hey Chump"!
That Apollo would also beat Rocky from IV.
So you're saying he had more muscles, but they were smaller? How did he grow new muscles? Like seven new pectorals or something? LOL!
But yeah, back to topic: Happened to have watched about half of Rocky III and 80% of Rocky IV last night; in Rocky IV, in the prefight dressing room Apollo says something like:
"I've never been in better shape in my life. I'm stronger and faster than I've ever been." -Apollo Creed IV
So it seems the previous notion by some that Drago murdering Apollo means nothing because Apollo was a washed-up chump was false
Originally posted by Robtard
So you're saying he had more muscles, but they were smaller? How did he grow new muscles? Like seven new pectorals or something? LOL!But yeah, back to topic: Happened to have watched about half of Rocky III and 80% of Rocky IV last night; in Rocky IV, in the prefight dressing room Apollo says something like:
"I've never been in better shape in my life. I'm stronger and faster than I've ever been." -Apollo Creed IV
So it seems the previous notion by some that Drago murdering Apollo means nothing because Apollo was a washed-up chump was false
Ummm you yourself believe Apollo would likely win... Which is very true. The is no way somebody removed from the fight game totally.. and we're talking about fighting at the highest level (championship fights) ... Who then half ass trains for an exhibition fight. A fight not even scheduled to go the full normal 15 minute rounds. That same guy is somehow in the best shape of his life LMAO... It goes without saying.. Hyperbole
Do you honestly believe that statement? Premature boasting before a fight.. is just that premature boasting. I take what Apollo says more serious when he's not boasting about himself pre fight. Any logical person would. Have you watched many UFC or Pride events? That's what fighters do... I'm in the best shape of my life.. i'm ready to die in there.. I'm going to destroy him in one round. That is just par for the course. We both know Apollo wasn't in the best shape of his life for an exhibition fight not even slated to go the distance when he's been retired for 4 years.. That isn't just LOL worth it's LOLS worthy
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiYou seem to be confused, My son.
Don't post anymore in this thread... You believe Drago or any professional fighter can punch at their punch power for the entire fight, and what's worse, actually would choose to do so (Which is exactly what they train you not to do) Therefore, your posting privileges have been revoked for this thread.
That wasn't Drago's strongest punch. It was explicitly his "average" punch.
Drago easily wins. 👆
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This is correct, having watched 85% of Rocky IV last night, 1850psi was indeed Drago's average punch as he casually did so, compared to the 700psi of your average boxer. 2150psi was Drago's highest shown punch in the final training montage when he was power-punching
edit: Here you go
Some of you people should really Rocky it up before continuing
Originally posted by Robtard
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^This is correct, having watched 85% of Rocky IV last night, 1850psi was indeed Drago's average punch as he casually did so, compared to the 700psi of your average boxer. 2150psi was Drago's highest shown punch in the montage when he was power-punching
Some of you people should really Rocky it up before continuing
Which BTW was AFTER he was just shown juicing up. We have no idea of how much time elapsed from him training to the actual fight. Point is, no legit trainer has you unload your full power into every punch. That is even under the assumption that you could (which you can't really in a fight) One was done in a stationary environment with nobody using angles.. rolling with punches... ready to punch back and just after he's been shot up. Sorry to say, but If you think Drago was punching Rocky at 1850 psi or even 2150 psi.. it's pretty damn silly. Further, to even say that was his average punching power considering the above is even more silly. Doing something in a set environment and calling that his average punch in an ACTUAL fight aren't mutually inclusive... Not even close. Nice try though To further illustrate this point... The fact that Rocky was barely dazed by any of those punches proves the point that Drago couldn't do that in a real fight. Creed and Lang hurt him more than Drago ever did. If he could really hit at that level.. even at 1000psi people would be killed after a few punches. Not tank punch after punch. Here's a fun flash fact... Your chin doesn't get better with age.. in fact the complete opposite is true. Rocky's chin wasnt' magically better (unless you believe he increased the size of his head and bone structure with that awesome montage video)
Further Robbie, I'm glad you understand the point about boasting pre fight... That can be taken with even less than a grain of salt.
So despite 1850psi being shown and stated to be Drago's "average punch", you're now going to say that Drago can't punch his average in a match? LoLZ!
As far as you trying to bring reality into this, of course a human, even a prime athlete would have been killed (which Apollo was BTW, a plot of the film), but this is not reality; Rocky Balboa is not real, should probably accept that by now
Originally posted by Robtard
So despite 1850psi being shown and stated to be Drago's "average punch", you're now going to say that Drago can't punch his average in a match? LoLZ!As far as you trying to bring reality into this, of course a human, even a prime athlete would have been killed (which Apollo was BTW, a plot of the film), but this is not reality; Rocky Balboa is not real, should probably accept that by now
Of course he can't, this has been analyzed by people ad nauseam by experts. You do understand the difference between doing something in a stable environment i.e. being able to unload your full body at a NON moving.. non rolling target and being in a actual fight with somebody trying to hit you back.. rolling with punches... using angles.. you not being able to plant your feet like that and put your full force into a punch because it's an actual fight. I'm being serious here.. Do you understand the difference ? If not, just google search and you'll find plenty of articles talking about that PSI test and why it was bs. Plenty of articles on it though
He's based on a normal human... He was supposed to be just that. Thus, he's governed by the same laws just like everybody else. He was a regular guy shown competing in a real sport that also has the same governing laws. This isn't in the future... Rocky isn't meant to be superhuman. It don't know how you could miss the key plot point of Rocky 1 and 2 where they go to great lengths to show us how truly human he is. I mean it couldn't be anymore clear.
I'm genuinely curious.. You do understand that a fighters durability goes down as he gets older not up right?