Originally posted by Kotor3
There are two scenes displaying his punching power. The first is when Drago is introduced and the Russians state that anything he hits he destroys. The next time is during his training for his match with Rocky.So, the director shows us that through his training and drug injection his punching power has increased.
This is an inaccurate conclusion.
The first scene of 1850psi is specifically stated as Drago's "average" punch, which means he has punched both above and below that number already
The second scene shows Drago punching above his average, 2150psi being the most shown in that scene. So while it stands to reason 2150psi isn't his max, from a MVF standpoint it's only fair that we go with 2150psi being his max
or in short, Drago's super-human 👆
Originally posted by RobtardBe truthful, are you trolling? Did you watch the movie?
Incorrect, Apollo wasn't lying when he said "I'm stronger and quicker than I've ever been" in Rocky IV. He just went up against a greater super-human who cheated with roidsIf you think Apollo is a liar, the onus is on you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuUjC-XOvQI
Apollo at the end of this video says to Rocky, "how did I do?" Rocky, "Good. A little to loud for me but good".
I was all show for Apollo. He never took the fight seriously. As seconded by the fact that his manager said during the fight to the Russians "What are you doing this is suppose to be an exhibition match".
Apollo, never took the fight seriously, neither did his manager or Rocky. He also didn't trained for the fight like a he would for a real fight. Apollo had not had a fight for at least 5 years.
Once again the director clearly shows that Apollo did and said the things he said for show. That is how the statement best shape in his life should be taken.
No, I'm not
As you can clearly see, the demonstration was still going on, thus according to your logic Drago was growing stronger by the second.
Originally posted by RobtardI like you comment you want us to use reason but you refuse to use it altogether.
This is an inaccurate conclusion.The first scene of 1850psi is specifically stated as Drago's "average" punch, which means he has punched both above and below that number already
The second scene shows Drago punching above his average, 2150psi being the most shown in that scene. So while it stands to reason 2150psi isn't his max, from a MVF standpoint it's only fair that we go with 2150psi being his max
or in short, Drago's super-human 👆
I only recall Drago punching greater than 1850 psi during his training for his fight with Rocky. He did not do so during the demonstration of his punching power.
Originally posted by AuraAngel
The increase happened in a montage, it did not increase by 300 psi in one scene.
When he starts punching you can see some of the same people in the background and they are wearing the same clothes, so the demonstration was still going on when the power increased.
Really it's just a matter of the 1850 being his average(as the movie stated) and the 2150 being his max, rather than Drago getting stronger by the second.
Originally posted by Silent MasterSo, you are stating that the punching scene within this video of Drago training: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqwuYX3fZZc
No, I'm notAs you can clearly see, the demonstration was still going on, thus according to your logic Drago was growing stronger by the second.
which is the last 10 seconds of your video is not a different scene but is the same scene where Drago demonstrates his punching power?
Originally posted by Robtard
Incorrect, Apollo wasn't lying when he said "I'm stronger and quicker than I've ever been" in Rocky IV. He just went up against a greater super-human who cheated with roidsIf you think Apollo is a liar, the onus is on you
Wrong big Robbie, you just said you believe everything he says. Well then you're saying he is a liar who misrepresents his condition. he told Rocky he was okay and not to stop the fight. He gave a gesture to his wife saying he was okay... when we can clearly see he's not okay in the least. He said Rocky was a bum who doesn't belong in the same ring with him (more untrue prefight boasting), He said he'd KO Rocky in one round in the second fight (more untrue prefight boasting) I could go on and on. The point is, he has a clear history of misrepresenting his condition or how a fight will go. He's big on a prefight hype and boasting. So we can clearly take his statement about his condition with a grain of salt. What's worse, even if there weren't all these examples I could cite that prove the point, I would still say that was prefight boasting based on common sense and logic. I don't need the quotes. That just makes it game set match.
Originally posted by Kotor3
Be truthful, are you trolling? Did you watch the movie?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuUjC-XOvQI
Apollo at the end of this video says to Rocky, "how did I do?" Rocky, "Good. A little to loud for me but good".
I was all show for Apollo. He never took the fight seriously. As seconded by the fact that his manager said during the fight to the Russians "What are you doing this is suppose to be an exhibition match".
Apollo, never took the fight seriously, neither did his manager or Rocky. He also didn't trained for the fight like a he would for a real fight. Apollo had not had a fight for at least 5 years.
Once again the director clearly shows that Apollo did and said the things he said for show. That is how the statement best shape in his life should be taken.
Not having a fight in 5 years has nothing to do with Apollo being "stronger and quicker than ever", not fighting in the ring doesn't mean he also stopped training himself and hadn't reached his final form
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Wrong big Robbie, you just said you believe everything he says. Well then you're saying he is a liar who misrepresents his condition. he told Rocky he was okay and not to stop the fight. He gave a gesture to his wife saying he was okay... when we can clearly see he's not okay in the least. He said Rocky was a bum who doesn't belong in the same ring with him (more untrue prefight boasting), He said he'd KO Rocky in one round in the second fight (more untrue prefight boasting) I could go on and on. The point is, he has a clear history of misrepresenting his condition or how a fight will go. He's big on a prefight hype and boasting. So we can clearly take his statement about his condition with a grain of salt. What's worse, even if there weren't all these examples I could cite that prove the point, I would still say that was prefight boasting based on common sense and logic. I don't need the quotes. That just makes it game set match.
Nope, not wrong. "Being Okay" is subjective. Apollo felt alright enough to continue, he just happened to underestimate the power of the super-human known as Drago
So, if you have proof that Apollo was lying, please post it
Originally posted by Kotor3
I like you comment you want us to use reason but you refuse to use it altogether.I only recall Drago punching greater than 1850 psi during his training for his fight with Rocky. He did not do so during the demonstration of his punching power.
Did you not read what I said?
First scene, 1850psi is shown and this is specifically stated as Drago's "average", which means he can already hit at both above and below that, that's how "averages" work
Already did, he clearly wasn't okay.. His face was swelled up.. he was bleeding from the mouth and nose. His body was busted up. In no way would anybody make the representation that they are okay and it be true. If he was getting hit as hard as you claim... he would know for a fact he wasn't okay and hurt badly. Yet, he acted like he was just fine. We know he wasn't. I doesn't matter what he believes or not believes there is REALITY. We know he wasn't okay. So either he lies about his condition or doesn't know his body well enough to state his proper condition. In either case, you lose this portion of the argument. There is no way around that.
Further, the prefight boasting he used in previous fights solidifies it. He said Rocky was a bum who didn't belong in the ring with him. CLEARLY not true. Even if he believed that, again then, he has no clue about who belongs in the ring or not. It doesn't make it better that he is clueless instead of a liar.. EITHER one make point and end the discussion. He said he would KO rocky in one round. Guess what, he know he was wrong, even if he believed that. No matter how you slice it... Apollo's prefight boasts are either lies.. or he has no clue. In either case, game over and thanks for playing big Robbie.
Originally posted by Robtard
Not having a fight in 5 years has nothing to do with Apollo being "stronger and quicker than ever", not fighting in the ring doesn't mean he also stopped training himself and hadn't reached his final form
Ah yes, the old, he's prime when he's mid 40's argument and been retired from competitive boxing for over 5 years while not training at the highest level. God I wish some others could read this and crack up like I do.
Originally posted by RobtardYou are the one who wants to stick specifically what is in the movie. Not only is what you said nonsense, but there is nothing in the movie stating that Apollo was still actively training.
Not having a fight in 5 years has nothing to do with Apollo being "stronger and quicker than ever", not fighting in the ring doesn't mean he also stopped training himself and hadn't reached his final form
Originally posted by RobtardOnce again you like to stick to what is specifically shown in the movies. I do not recall him displaying a hit that was higher than 1850 psi until the training scene. So whether he could or not is not shown.
Did you not read what I said?First scene, 1850psi is shown and this is specifically stated as Drago's "average", which means he can already hit at both above and below that, that's how "averages" work