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Originally posted by AncientPower
Yes well calling me out for providing no evidence to my arguments is rather inane given that anyone can attest to those exact narrative accolades.'Amp BS'? It is roundly accepted that feats performed whilst amplified are not representative of A character's real power, otherwise everyone would put Anakin Skywalker in stomp positions due to Mortis feats.
Darth Maul has soundly defeated much greater opponents than Darth Bane has. They have more feats, hype and accolades. Darth Maul is only outmatched against the likes of the man whom trained him, even then Maul has an impressive record against his Sith master.
Orbalisk armor has weaknesses, namely the face and considering this Maul can most certainly get around his plot armor. Maul is a confirmed master of multiple lightsaber forms and martial arts, he was trained to absolute perfection in martial combat by the second greatest martial combatant in the lore. That isn't hyperbole, but fact. Facts Bane can't compare to.
Bane is the Sith'ari certainly but that never actually inferred godlike power. By comparison Darth Sidious is literally A living nexus of Dark Side energy so potent that other Force Users only see blackholes in the Force when viewing him. Coincidentally Darth Sidious can unleash powers similar to black holes so there is that.
Not really. I'm calling you out on saying that Maul is better in every respect and has far superior feats yet not actually giving those feats or offering evidence to support such an assertion. Meanwhile I have posted many feats for Bane. So you're being utterly wrong and hypocritical in suggesting that all I'm doing is dismissing opinions and replacing them with Bane wank when you've done nothing but the same with Maul.
Yet there is no reason to dismiss those feats out of hand and suggest they're completely irrelevant. If a character performs an amped feat before their prime then surely they'd be capable of repeating it when at it (provided the amp isn't too extensive). Maybe to a slightly lesser extent. Bane's actually demonstrated this to be true btw. And If a character performs an amped feat quite easily, then there's no reason to think they couldn't replicate it with much more effort. Again, at worst to a slightly diminished capacity. Both which apply to Bane. And theres the problem with amps, like nexus', being ambiguous and not properly mentioned to be taking place. So yeah, I'd say little critical evaluation is far preferable to outright dismissal. Maul would need to have his power doubled or more to perform Bane's Temple feat, not accounting for the prep. And Bane performed it in his lesser incarnation. So I have no problems with saying he's greater in TK to him, supported again with Bane's technobeast disintegration feat. And as I said, Bane IS amped here, so it's irrelevant. So how does Maul stack up to a full power Bane with all his feats? Not well I think.
Eh.... has he really? Qui-Gon, TMP Obi-Wan, Bondara... aren't those his only clean victories? I don't see them as anything to brag about overmuch. And victories aren't the best way to evaluate someone. Bane was in hiding for most of his career, he's only even met Jedi on one occasion. Not really a reliable method for comparison. His speed, strength, power and skill are enough for him to take Maul however.
Bane doesn't need plot armor when he has real armor. Just saying his armor has weaknesses doesn't make the advantage any less immense. Those weakpoints are all very hard to hit and having most of his body being protected gives Bane a huge practical advantage over Mauls lack of protection. He can block blows with his body and simply shrug off attacks to get the upper hand, with total abandon to attack Mauls whole body while Maul has to work to target small, easily protected places. He's also basically immune to martial arts strikes, which Maul is very prone to using. The orblalisks also increase his speed, strength, reflexes and force power and gives him rapid regeneration. And Bane isn't exactly lagging behind Maul in skill. He's also a master of multiple forms, probably all of them. He was more than a match for Kas'im, who's skill arguably exceeds Maul's given that he's mastered ever form, utterly perfected his skills with every single one of them and shown enough talent to invent hundreds of thousands of sequences and moves for all of them. And unlike Bane, Maul never completed his training. He's not good enough that he's so much better that he can dominate Bane and target his weak points. Not in skill and not in speed.
You're wrong, the Book of Sith and the other descriptions of the Sith'ari prophecy specifically outlines that the Sith'ari will possess immense, godlike power. Specifically using the phrases "perfect strength", "perfect power" and "a perfect being" who will be "free from limits". Sorzus Syn states that the concept of the Sith'ari expressly relates to strength and directly states that Sith'ari should be considered a god. She also directly compares it to the Jedi's prophecy of the Chosen One. And no, Dooku's descriptive fellatio of Sidious shouldn't be taken seriously just like Traya's shouldn't of Revan. If Sidious is a black hole in the Force the Revan must be the heart of it as well.