Originally posted by Stoic
According to the writer. Yes he did. It's actually canon to the story. It's written after the story just before he travels to the Dark Dimension, but it's still canon. Just like when Superman holds back. We all know that a physical battle between him (Superman) and just about any DC hero is him holding back. So if Superman says that he was holding back, and we can take it at face value, why isn't the same done in regards of the Hulk?It literally took him less than 3 panels to go from not being able to stop Sakaar from exploding to being able to overpower the forces that were going to make it explode. This is just the first piece of evidence that he was actually holding back. Then he literally comes out and says that he was. Another piece of evidence happens at the very end of the WW Hulk arc, when with a footfall he nearly sinks the entire Eastern Seaboard. And he was trying to stop himself.
PIS happens in comics. Bran brought up a huge point. People say that Xavier could have done this and that. The Hulk could have destroyed the entire state that the X-Men lived in before ever arriving at the mansion. The Hulk could have destroyed the entire planet before he ever made the broadcast from the moon. Superman could have broken Wonder Woman's neck several times. batman should have never drew blood from Superman, because he can take a nuke to the face without taking as much damage. Superman should have kill J'onn several times before ever getting within range of him, by frying him with HV back in the day. You want to talk about PIS?
I mentioned this a couple pages back. It's not so much PIS, but more character that plays part in many of these things. The Hulk, like Superman is not a murderer, he's a hero. Doomsday is a murderer. Strange would see this and kill him. There would be slight differences in the outcome of several events if the book was calle World War Doomsday. Doomsday would have either been shut down by Xavier, or he would have killed all of the mutants present except for those able to escape. He wouldn't have killed the Juggernaut though. This event would have been broadcasted to other heroes including Doctor Strange. Do you think that any of the heroes on Earth would hold back against, or try to reason with a monster that would punch a child through a sidewalk? No, of course not.
Was Sentry holding back during WORLD WAR HULK?
Originally posted by ODGcrackers
Since you've decided to jump in the line of fire, you can deal with the following.
Stoic asserted that despite the on panel evidence in the fight between The Hulk and Sentry in WORLD WAR HULK, Banner wasn't going all out. The premise for this stance is that subsequent events indicated that he was capable of much more.
Using the standard created by, Stoic, I now ask YOU the following.
Do the depictions of The Sentry after the fight you posted indicate that Robert was really not holding back?
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Since you've decided to jump in the line of fire, you can deal with the following.Stoic asserted that despite the on panel evidence in the fight between The Hulk and Sentry in WORLD WAR HULK, Banner wasn't going all out. The premise for this stance is that subsequent events indicated that he was capable of much more.
Using the standard created by, Stoic, I now ask YOU the following.
Do the depictions of The Sentry after the fight you posted indicate that Robert was really not holding back?
Hulk said he was holding back so yes, Stoic is correct.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklynWhat an obtuse question as 1) the answer is plainly obvious, and 2) you witlessly ignored the actual storyline.
Since you've decided to jump in the line of fire, you can deal with the following.Stoic asserted that despite the on panel evidence in the fight between The Hulk and Sentry in WORLD WAR HULK, Banner wasn't going all out. The premise for this stance is that subsequent events indicated that he was capable of much more.
Using the standard created by, Stoic, I now ask YOU the following.
Do the depictions of The Sentry after the fight you posted indicate that Robert was really not holding back?
1) That was the most power Sentry could bring to bear at the time without Voiding out. That was not the most power Hulk could bring to bear at the time.
2) That it wasn't the most power Hulk could bring to bear at the time was proven not even a few pages later. You didn't need the Heart of the Monster storyline years later to prove that. You just had to turn a few phucking pages in the actual World War Hulk #5 comic itself.
Originally posted by ODG
What an obtuse question as 1) the answer is plainly obvious, and 2) you witlessly ignored the actual storyline.1) That was the most power Sentry could bring to bear at the time without Voiding out. That was not the most power Hulk could bring to bear at the time.
2) That it wasn't the most power Hulk could bring to bear at the time was proven not even a few pages later. You didn't need the Heart of the Monster storyline years later to prove that. You just had to turn a few phucking pages in the actual World War Hulk #5 comic itself.
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Originally posted by ODG
What an obtuse question as 1) the answer is plainly obvious, and 2) you witlessly ignored the actual storyline.1) That was the most power Sentry could bring to bear at the time without Voiding out. That was not the most power Hulk could bring to bear at the time.
2) That it wasn't the most power Hulk could bring to bear at the time was proven not even a few pages later. You didn't need the Heart of the Monster storyline years later to prove that. You just had to turn a few phucking pages in the actual World War Hulk #5 comic itself.
So they added the revision because it was so "Expletive" obvious the first time around.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
So they added the revision because it was so "Expletive" obvious the first time around.
Lol...what ODG is telling you is, right after the Hulk and Sentry fight, Hulk went Super Saiyan. This literally took place a couple of pages AFTER their fight. He was amped to the point that he was stating he could destroy Earth with another footstep. What does this tell you LOB?
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Since you've decided to jump in the line of fire, you can deal with the following.Stoic asserted that despite the on panel evidence in the fight between The Hulk and Sentry in WORLD WAR HULK, Banner wasn't going all out. The premise for this stance is that subsequent events indicated that he was capable of much more.
Using the standard created by, Stoic, I now ask YOU the following.
Do the depictions of The Sentry after the fight you posted indicate that Robert was really not holding back?
The Sentry wasn't holding back in his fight with Hulk. I wouldn't say he went all out under his own power. It's more to do with the fact that he lost control halfway through the fight.
The events in the Ultron fight are quite the same. As soon as he sees Lindy is dead and he loses control. Whereas the precedent for the WWH fight is different to the Ultron one. Although with WWH I think Sentry wasn't as likely to turn as he was the Ultron fight.
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Same comic...pages after his fight with Sentry.
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/wwh033.jpg.html
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/wwh034.jpg.html
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/wwh035.jpg.html
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...what ODG is telling you is, right after the Hulk and Sentry fight, Hulk went Super Saiyan. This literally took place a couple of pages AFTER their fight. He was amped to the point that he was stating he could destroy Earth with another footstep. What does this tell you LOB?
It tells me the same standard should be applied in reference to The Sentry.
You jumped into the argument without taking stock of what is going on.
My point is the inherent contradiction involved in those who hold Sentry to that showing when later depictions prove otherwise.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
It tells me the same standard should be applied in reference to The Sentry.You jumped into the argument without taking stock of what is going on.
My point is the inherent contradiction involved in those who hold Sentry to that showing when later depictions prove otherwise.
What we are telling you is, we don't even have to wait until 'later' to see if Hulk was holding back or not. He shows this in the SAME comic him and Sentry fought in. The same comic. Do you not see the flaw in your argument?
Plus, your argument is similar to me saying "Superman held back against HP Doomsday because he showed better fts afterwards. WTF man.
