Originally posted by SunRazer
Vader's implied to have entered a state of Oneness when he lifted Palpatine, and that does make sense considering the latter's Lightning should have killed him much more quickly in normal instances.
Abit off topic considering the thread, but interesting...source for it? I don't recall anything such. I just figured it was due to his incredible willpower.
It was in reference to people talking about Vader killing Palpatine. I think it was The Unifying Force or something for the source, but I can't remember fully. Whatever it was, the implication does make sense, since Vader would logically be destroyed by Palpatine's Lightning and has been taken down by weaker attacks.
His willpower is incredible, but not as incredible as the potency of Sidious's Lightning.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDThis is no basis for arguing Scourge's superiority over Vader. The number of talents esoteric or otherwise is not the means by which we gauge Force ability.
I have listed 3 known talents of Emperor's Wrath that Vader haven't demonstrated:1. Consume Essence
2. Force Stealth
3. ShatterpointYour turn.
An'ya Kuro, also known as the Dark Woman, possesses the following abilities that Scourge does not:
1. Fold Space
2. Plant Surge
3. Phase
Does this make her a more powerful Force User? No.
If your going to try and prove Scourge is more powerful than Vader, show me something Vader has done that Scourge has done better.
No comments.Figures.
They are not excuses, they are my take on this matter. I am trying to make sense of a PIS aspect of SWTOR, and justification is not easy. This is something that BioWare can actually clarify.Ha. I await the email.
But until then, here is a simple explanation: the Sith Emperor isn't as powerful as Sidious. 💃
Warren Sedoru, one of the Jedi warriors who accompanied Master Tol Braga in the mission to arrest Vitiate. Warren have the ability to read minds of others.Shaak Ti > Vitiate tbh.I compared Warren to Darth Sidious because you compared Vitiate to Shaak Ti.
I don't look for excuses to belittle characters, like you.
Why not?Except Scourge has never demonstrated Force ability outside the scope of telepathic powers above Vader and Plagueis' level. And that makes this assumption, that Scourge is a TP powerhouse, unlikely. And the notion that the Sith Emperor simply isn't as strong as a telepath as Sidious, all the more.Scourge deceived Vitiate for 300 years (your argument), and if we take this argument at face value then Scourge likely have superior telepathic abilities then Vader and Darth Plagueis.
"Unleashed from his sanctuary on Yavin 4, the former Sith Emperor has now struck the Imperial world of Ziost. Using his immense power in the dark side of the Force, he has dominated the minds of the planet’s Imperial troops--as well as an elite cadre of militaristic Jedi--and has set them against the populace, engaging in a bloody slaughter."
Voice of the Emperor represents a host 'possessed' by Vitiate. In short, essence-oriented feat. Essence is spirit.
It shall also be noted that Vitiate shared his essence with thousands of individuals (i.e. Children of the Emperor), whom Vitiate deployed in many Republic worlds to perform his deeds whenever he desired. In this manner, Vitiate was able to spread his influence on galactic scale. This feat is similar to Vitiate's actions on Ziost. Difference is that Vitiate concentrated his power on a single planet this time, disrupting the entire planet in the process.
Is this from the new content? If so I shall reserve judgement until I have perused it myself.
However a spirit attached to a body is no different from a body. What makes spirits more powerful is they possess a deeper and closer connection to the Force, by possessing a body the Sith Emperor would be restrained by mortal qualities like physical tissue and more important midichlorians.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Is this from the new content? If so I shall reserve judgement until I have perused it myself.However a spirit attached to a body is no different from a body. What makes spirits more powerful is they possess a deeper and closer connection to the Force, by possessing a body the Sith Emperor would be restrained by mortal qualities like physical tissue and more important midichlorians.
UPDATE:
Vitiate telepathically dominated (all) inhabitants of Imperial World (i.e. Ziost):
The Emperor escaped destruction on Yavin 4, and now his presence has been felt on the planet Ziost, once powerful throne world of the Sith Empire. You are called upon again to face this galactic menace when your allies realize that the entire planet's inhabitants have been mind-controlled. And while the Emperor’s ultimate plan is still unknown, you do know he must be stopped.
Source: http://www.swtor.com/blog/welcome-game-update-3.2-rise-emperor
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As the Sith Emperor gradually dominates the free will of everyone on Ziost, both Lana Beniko, Minister of the newly formed Sith Intelligence, and Theron Shan, a spy for the Galactic Republic, are trying to stop the chaos. Your leadership in guiding them through the conflict on Ziost is critical to uncovering the former Sith Emperor's terrifying plan.
Source: http://www.swtor.com/gameupdates/rise-of-the-emperor
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More information:
"The scores of dead have nourished me. I am awakened. And I bring with me--death!" – Sith Emperor
Obsessed with achieving immortality, the Sith Emperor has targeted his own former subjects on the planet Ziost, with every death seemingly extending his dark power. Speaking through those he's possessed, he controls powerful pawns like Master Surro, the leader of a team of elite militarized Jedi known as the Sixth Line.
Source: http://www.swtor.com/gameupdates/rise-of-the-emperor
Audio Files: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6gP3S9Uiqc