Wolverine vs Aliens

Originally posted by Werewolf582
Your logic is that since there were no bullets in the Wolverine vs DP, then that means DP is not bullet timing.

By your logic, Superman isn't a bullet timer and neither is Spiderman or most Jedi. They have bullet timing feats, but since they don't do it in every fight there in they don't have it at that point. That's your logic. Well, that and lowballing

And your own logic is biting you in the ass and its getting painful to watch 🙁

That isn't my logic at all, it's says an awful lot about your side that you have to blatantly lie about my stance.

My logic is two-fold 1) that the scene showed no evidence of superspeed, thus no superspeed was used and 2) Wolverine has zero feats of fighting at BT speeds, thus he doesn't have BT level speed.

Originally posted by Silent Master
That isn't my logic at all, it's says an awful lot about your side that you have to blatantly lie about my stance.

My logic is two-fold 1) that the scene showed no evidence of superspeed, thus no superspeed was used and 2) Wolverine has zero feats of fighting at BT speeds, thus he doesn't have BT level speed.

Then your logic is "I can see them" therefore an even dumber accusation.

We saw no superspeed punches when superman fought people. We saw no superspeed punches when spiderman fought Lizard. Therefore, you are saying they don't have superspeed reactions.

Never said he did, so again, I'm just calling you out on your bullshit logic 👆

Originally posted by Werewolf582
Then your logic is "I can see them" therefore an even dumber accusation.

We saw no superspeed punches when superman fought people. We saw no superspeed punches when spiderman fought Lizard. Therefore, you are saying they don't have superspeed reactions.

Never said he did, so again, I'm just calling you out on your bullshit logic 👆

Again, that isn't my stance all, if it was I'd be saying that Wade wasn't bullet-timing in the beginning of the movie since we can clearly see him.

Speaking of Wade's BT scene, even if you remove the bullets from it, you'd still have proof that he was faster than normal since he was moving the blades so fast that they were leaving after-images. in the Wolverine fight there is zero evidence to support that he was moving faster than normal.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Again, that isn't my stance all, if it was I'd be saying that Wade wasn't bullet-timing in the beginning of the movie since we can clearly see him.

Speaking of Wade's BT scene, even if you remove the bullets from it, you'd still have proof that he was faster than normal since he was moving the blades so fast that they were leaving after-images. in the Wolverine fight there is zero evidence to support that he was moving faster than normal.

But we see bullets flying. So trying to get around what my point was is not going to help you.

I can move my hand or foot fast enough to where it could be a blur too. Guess I'm a bullet timer.

Guy at the idea table: Hey guys, lets make the final battle so fast that no one can see what the hell is going on and make every single attack blurry as shit

Movie creators:...............................Is this guy an idiot?

Originally posted by Werewolf582
But we see bullets flying. So trying to get around what my point was is not going to help you.

I can move my hand or foot fast enough to where it could be a blur too. Guess I'm a bullet timer.

Guy at the idea table: Hey guys, lets make the final battle so fast that no one can see what the hell is going on and make every single attack blurry as shit

Movie creators:...............................Is this guy an idiot?

I didn't say that the swords leaving after images was proof that he was bullet-timing, I said that it was proof that he was moving faster than normal. him blocking the bullets and cutting one in half is what shows us how much faster than normal he is moving.

The Wolverine fight has zero evidence that anybody was moving faster than normal.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I didn't say that the swords leaving after images was proof that he was bullet-timing, I said that it was proof that he was moving faster than normal. him blocking the bullets and cutting one in half is what shows us how much faster than normal he is moving.

The Wolverine fight has zero evidence that anybody was moving faster than normal.

Making after images and blurs isn't that fast since almost anyone can do it. You said without the bullets, now you are going back to the bullets.

Superman and spiderman didn't show any blurs or afterimages in their fights. Are you claiming that they are human speed as well?

Originally posted by Werewolf582
Making after images and blurs isn't that fast since almost anyone can do it. You said without the bullets, now you are going back to the bullets.

Superman and spiderman didn't show any blurs or afterimages in their fights. Are you claiming that they are human speed as well?

Then post feats of people leaving after images with swords.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmeNOX_oEZ4

Guys with heavier weapons and not going full out can make blurs and slight after images

Originally posted by Werewolf582
Stealthranger is the only one who claimed that. Don't try to put word in my mouth.

Then what seems to be the problem here? If we can all agree that Wolverine doesn't have BT speed then what's this ongoing debate for?

That isn't even close to after image effect Wade was causing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiibN8EmIxE

Originally posted by FrothByte
Then what seems to be the problem here? If we can all agree that Wolverine doesn't have BT speed then what's this ongoing debate for?

He's misrepresenting my stance and then saying that my logic is faulty as that would mean guys that actually have speed feats(unlike Logan)don't have superspeed.

Originally posted by Silent Master
That isn't even close to after image effect Wade was causing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiibN8EmIxE

Now your trying to cirlce around.

You asked for people causing blurs and after images, I gave you one with people using heavier weapons AND holding back.

And now your trying to ask for someone doing it on DPs level. Lol, you just make this to easy.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Then what seems to be the problem here? If we can all agree that Wolverine doesn't have BT speed then what's this ongoing debate for?

Sm has logic that I disagree with.

If you had read what was going on before posting, you wouldn't have made yourself look bad.

Originally posted by Werewolf582
Now your trying to cirlce around.

You asked for people causing blurs and after images, I gave you one with people using heavier weapons AND holding back.

And now your trying to ask for someone doing it on DPs level. Lol, you just make this to easy.

Considering we were talking about Wade's feat, it should have been obvious that I was asking for something on his level.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Considering we were talking about Wade's feat, it should have been obvious that I was asking for something on his level.

And i gave you people holding back and using heavier weapons. Did they accomplish exactly what Wade did? I admit no. But the fact doesn't change that they were using heavier weapons and holding back. Wade used lighter weapons and went all out.

Context is key.

You asked for people making blurs and after images, and I gave them to you. Now you are trying to get around it and ask for Wades shit. I'll look for a video tomorrow cause I'm really tired.

The feat you posted doesn't even come close to matching Wade's feat, but go ahead and continue to wrongly think you actually proved something.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I'm thinking Wolverine tbh, if you believe his claws can withstand their acid blood.

He will be beaten up, surely, but their main methods of killing their prey (punch through the skull with their tongue, impaled by tail) won't work on Wolverine, and Wolverine can easily kill them.

Originally posted by Werewolf582
Sm has logic that I disagree with.

If you had read what was going on before posting, you wouldn't have made yourself look bad.

How exactly did I look bad? My post wasn't even directed at you. Don't know why you're getting all uppity. My original post was that whoever thinks Wolverine has super speed is stupid. Whether you feel like this refers to you or not is your own decision.

SM never made any claims about Supes or Spiderman, so Werewolf trying to make out as though he is suggesting that they fight at human levels is a joke. Even more so, considering latest movie Supes dodges out of the way of the barrage of bullets in the Smallville fight in MoS (as well as keeping up with people who are shown to easily blitz humans or create sonic booms while fighting him), and Garfield Spidey has a feat in ASM1 where he casually dodges 4 bullets at point blank range, while talking trash, as well as his numerous other super reaction feats throughout the films. And that is just taking the latest versions of those 2.

And LOL at people waving stuff around quickly == Wade's feats. When a regular person can start turning after a round is fired at their back, yet is still fast enough to complete the turn and slice it in half, then they can compare to pre-upgrade Wade.

I mean really, use some common sense here. Logan has never once in any of the films displayed anything remotely close to bullet timer speed. The other people Werewolf is trying to compare him to have plenty of feats that make it obvious they operate above normal human speeds.

Basically, Werewolf82 is trying to argue that characters with known super speed and tons of feats to back it up, who occasionally have lower showings, is the same thing as a character with zero speed feats across 6 films and 1 fight against someone who performed a bullet timing feat under vastly different circumstances, at another time.

Wolverine has been incapacitated many times throughout the X-Men film franchise.

The one I remember best, that made me facepalm, was in X-Men 2 when Logan got shot in the forehead by the cops at Bobby's house. One little bullet knocked Logan out for the duration of Pyro's attack on the cops.

I'm sure that 30 Xenomorphs could overwhelm Wolverine via a bum rush assault using their acid blood and spear tails. Yeah, Wolvie could regenerate muscle mass lost from the acid blood of the Xenos, but for how long?