Legolas vs Captain America

Started by ares83423 pages

Legolas can win all the gold medals in gymnastics he wants. Doesn't change the fact that Cap completely knocks him out with a punch.

Seriously, the idea that Legolas is some untouchable warrior is completely unfounded and straight up contradicted by his fight with Bolg. Cap lays him out with a single shield bash. It's an absolute stomp in melee combat.

With a bow and enough distance Legolas may take it though. Not really sure on that one.

No Legolas is definitely not getting KO'd by one hit. Bolg is an 8' undead monstrosity whom has smashed stone, casually tossed around other Orcs and has stomped Kili and Tauriel in their fight.

Legolas has taken hard beatings in fights and has only so much as a bleeding nose to show for it. PJ's Legolas is meant to be a ridiculously 'bad ass' hero throughout both trilogies.

He is a very strong, durable, agile and fast combatant with immense skills in both swordsmanship and marksmanship the likes of which Cap has never faced.

First Bolg is not an "undead monstrosity" he's an Orc. Second, while he has defeated dwarves and is a mighty warrior he was seen getting beaten down by Dwalin in the Battle of Azanulbizar. I also don't remember him "shattering stone". Rather he was knocking off bricks on a bridge that was literally crumbling under his feet. He did throw a small boulder though. That was pretty good.

Cap, however, is far stronger and far faster. We've just seen him flip and throw a motorcycle, IIRC he has thrown people dozens of feet, and he has fought evenly with guys who can dent metal with his fist. Legolas isn't taking a full in hit from this guy and remaining conscious.

There's no single proof out there to prove that Cap can KO Legolas with one hit. Heck, Legolas has never even come close to getting KO'd.

It will take Cap multiple hits to KO Legolas.. whereas Legolas only needs one good hit to end Cap.

Keep in mind Cap's shield is sharp enough to cut Legolas. He chopped off a Chitauri's arm with it.

Originally posted by FrothByte
There's no single proof out there to prove that Cap can KO Legolas with one hit. Heck, Legolas has never even come close to getting KO'd.

It will take Cap multiple hits to KO Legolas.. whereas Legolas only needs one good hit to end Cap.

Sure there is. Legolas has never shown taking a hit as strong as what Cap can put out.

Originally posted by ares834
Sure there is. Legolas has never shown taking a hit as strong as what Cap can put out.

Lol. Cap is strong but please stop making him look like he's Thor. He had to hit some of those agents in the elevator multiple times to KO them. He also shield bashed Batroc and Batroc just got back up. You need to provide proof that he can easily KO Legolas with one hit. You know the rule here, post a valid screen feat to support your claims otherwise it won't fly.

Him punching Legolas in the face is not as lethal as Legolas putting a sword through his face.

Flipping a motorcycle and smashing a car with it. 🙂

Originally posted by ares834
First Bolg is not an "undead monstrosity" he's an Orc. Second, while he has defeated dwarves and is a mighty warrior he was seen getting beaten down by Dwalin in the Battle of Azanulbizar. I also don't remember him "shattering stone". Rather he was knocking off bricks on a bridge that was literally crumbling under his feet. He did throw a small boulder though. That was pretty good.

Cap, however, is far stronger and far faster. We've just seen him flip and throw a motorcycle, IIRC he has thrown people dozens of feet, and he has fought evenly with guys who can dent metal with his fist. Legolas isn't taking a full in hit from this guy and remaining conscious.

According to PJ canon, Sauron enlisted Azog with the price of bringing Bolg back to life. Hence the enormous chunks of steel stuck in his body and head.

He punches a brick falling through mid-air and it shatters IIRC. Also Legolas has over-powered Bolg twice. At the Battle of the Hornburg Legolas is seen dead lifting via rope Aragorn(wearing chainmail) and Gimli(also wearing chainmail) with little apparent effort on his part. He also didn't appear to have much help if any at all.

Speaking of physical feats, he along with Aragorn and Gimli spent three days straight hunting the Uruk-hai and Legolas didn't even appear tired.

He has never shown anything but extreme physical feats that contradict your assumption that Cap can KO him in one hit, something he almost never does to lesser opponents in his own films.

Originally posted by ares834
Flipping a motorcycle and smashing a car with it. 🙂

You mean him flipping a motorcycle that was already at speed and adding his strength to it's momentum? Don't see how that proves he can KO Legolas with one hit.

As I mentioned, he shield bashed Batroc and Batroc just got up. He hit Batroc multiple times before he was able to KO Batroc.

The amount to flip a motorcycle that is ridiculous. He also smashed a car door with a drop kick in a new commercial (been awhile since I saw the movies hence why I'm using feats from he commercials).

As for Batroc, that just means he can take hits better than Legolas.

Originally posted by AncientPower
According to PJ canon, Sauron enlisted Azog with the price of bringing Bolg back to life. Hence the enormous chunks of steel stuck in his body and head.

He punches a brick falling through mid-air and it shatters IIRC. Also Legolas has over-powered Bolg twice. At the Battle of the Hornburg Legolas is seen dead lifting via rope Aragorn(wearing chainmail) and Gimli(also wearing chainmail) with little apparent effort on his part. He also didn't appear to have much help if any at all.

Speaking of physical feats, he along with Aragorn and Gimli spent three days straight hunting the Uruk-hai and Legolas didn't even appear tired.

He has never shown anything but extreme physical feats that contradict your assumption that Cap can KO him in one hit, something he almost never does to lesser opponents in his own films.

I'm going to need a source for the Bolg nonsense.

A decent feat from Legolas. But it pales in comparison to what Cap has done.

Sure, he has amazing stamina. I've never disagreed.

Cap ultimately has strength feats that completely exceed anything that Legolas has taken. Like I said a full on hit will KO him.

I think it's Desolation of Smaug commentary.

A decent feat further reinforcing the contradictory nature of your belief that Legolas can be one hit KO'd by Cap. Not once has Legolas been injured badly in combat, he is far too fast and agile to be taken so easily.

Show me an instance in which Steve has one hit KO'd any body with physical feats the level of Legolas. I won't bother waiting because I've seen The First Avenger, Avengers Assemble and Winter Soldier dozens of times, no such feat exists.

Better yet show me an instance where Cap has faced and beaten so easily a Legolas tier or better opponent in physical combat. Bucky? nope, he's been on the losing end of all their confrontations. Red Skull? Nope that was also a very hard fight. Loki? Beat Rogers whilst wanting to be captured. He has knocked out two actual characters whom were nothing but background characters, neither of them compare to Legolas.

Cap crushes in h2h. Rob's on point.

Cap also gives better speeches than any elf or dwarf. He'd be a legend in LOTR lore.

I've got my doubts about Bolg. But whatever it's ultimately pretty inconquisential.

Legolas is fairly strong sure. That doesn't mean he can take a hit though. And certainly not one from Cap.

MOS Superman has also no feats of knocking Legolas-tier characters out with a hit. Of course he could easily do it (and far more) because of his strength feats. It's the same with Cap (albeit far less extreme.) His strength feats outclass anything Legolas has taken.

Superman laughably out-strips Cap in strength, he was knocking around Kryptonians and outright snapped Zod's neck. That in of itself is greater than anything Legolas or the Cap can claim.

Poor comparison friend, Captain has knocked out two actual characters and neither of them are Legolas tier. In fights against other genuine characters he has never one hit KO'd them or gotten anywhere close to a dominating performance. Your stance simply has no leg to stand on.

Nope the comparison works. It's an extreme example nothing more. We know how strong Cap is and how durable Legolas is. By comparing this we see that Cap lays him out with one solid shield bash. That he rarely knocks people out in a hit doesn't contradict his other feats. They can be chalked down to either PIS or that he doesn't put everything into his punches every time.

You are using outlier feats and a trailer clip to support your KO argument, that is the issue. You are also repeatedly assuming Cap is strong enough to KO Legolas when Bolg who really can't be that much lesser in strength could only give him a bloody nose and did nothing more in combat.

You are also assuming a fight where Legolas does exactly what Rogers would want him to do. I can easily argue that Cap throws his shield, Legolas ducks it with ease and Rogers is shot in the face. Given how regularly Cap does this in combat it is an equally viable argunent but based in far less assumptions than your own.

As I've said before, I'm talking about a strictly melee confrontation. Give Legolas his bow and some distance and I honestly have no clue who wins.

Fair enough.