The Emperor's Wrath vs Dooku

Started by DarthAnt6611 pages

Originally posted by ares834
Nah, you're using the games visuals, so am I.

Don't have any right now. Just look up rage boost TFU 2. I'm sure you'll find it.


Concession accepted. 👆 🙄

Nope - got nothing. You are the one preaching you, so you are the one who needs to find it.

Originally posted by Nephthys
What are you talking about? What did Starkiller do?

Allowed him to instantly vaporize stormies and stuff with lighting, force pushes , etc... Basically exactly what happens in those trailers.

Starkiller is more than capable of killing stormtroopers with lightning or TK, so that's canon and well within his range of abilities, but not necessarily the visual effects that happen during gameplay mechanics.

Revan can bring down meteorites, but since it happens in game play, the specifics are unknowable. Game play mechanics have always been non-canon, however, feats that are scripted can be accepted as something the force user did since they are beyond the player's control. But trying to evaluate a feat which happens during non-canon gameplay would prove unsuccessful. The only thing we know is that it happened, the same way we know game play fights happened.

YouTube video

Here it is (sorry about the music best I could find). Force Fury it's called and here we can see him vaporizing enemies with lightning, repulse, force push, etc. And since it's automatically activated when blowing up the SD (which frankly shits on the vaporization anyway) and when battling Vader it is indeed canon (by Ant's logic that is). 👆

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
outside of content confirmed by guides or canonical character statements/codex entries/cutscenes. 😬

👆 Try again, babe. This is just too much fun.

Staarkiller is confirmed to have lightning, TK, and force fury from cut scenes, comics, etc. 👆

The only cutscene shown in that entire video was at 3:34, lmfao.

Which is incidentally the best feat. Regardless he is shown use the other abilities in other cutscenes. Never said he displayed all his abilities in that vid did I?

Starkiller unleashing a TK blast that activates some sort of superweapon is the best feat, lmfao? 😬

Lol at superweapon.

And its all his power. He charges the turbolaser with his lightning and then shoots it with his push. Beyond that we have him vaporizing grunts with lightning and waves. Starkiller>Revan. 🙂

"The main canon is offline. We're dead in the water without it. See what you can do." --General Kota
Then Starkiller went over and reactivated it via lightning, then pushed in the canon missile which you see in the video.

Keep trying. 👆

EDIT: You edited your post, lame.

So exactly what I said. Charges it with lightning and shoots it with his TK. 👆

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
EDIT: You edited your post, lame.

👆 He didn't charge the canon itself, he charged the electronics that move it. 😬

Of course. That explains why the blast was a big ball of lightning rather than a turbolaser or something of that ilk. Oh, and if he charged the electronics that activated it it explains why he was forced to launch the blast rather than the machine itself.

🙄

*sigh*
I will be referencing this video, by the way: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boIet7A97II.

That explains why the blast was a big ball of lightning rather than a turbolaser

Whatever missile is being fired, that's how it appears even without the aid of Starkiller. The missile was deactivated here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boIet7A97II&t=2m30s by the same ball of lightning that Starkiller was later seen activating. So, I accept your concession on that part. We also see the energies that power the ion canon (I think) are lost. That's where Starkiller comes in!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boIet7A97II&t=2m58s : Starkiller uses his Force Lightning to replenish the energy that is used to activate the device, seemingly. Starkiller than takes a long time harnessing energies to push in the missile into the ion canon for firing. Once in the slot, it seems Starkiller's work is done. The device won't work properly if all Starkiller is doing is flying it through the machine - that's the entire reason why he had to build up the power of those tanks. The amount of speed it takes to go into the slot doesn't add up to the longer duration of time it took in the canon itself and firing. If Starkiller was controlling it, it would have gone the same speed - or maybe faster considering the buildup of energies.

Its worth noting that it was a unique prototype cannon. We can't really assume we know how it works.

Also its an ion cannon so of course it doesn't shoot a laser.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Its worth noting that it was a unique prototype cannon. We can't really assume we know how it works.

Also its an ion cannon so of course it doesn't shoot a laser.


But the energy released is obviously not the ion canon but Starkiller's lightning!!!11!!

Yeah, thats why Starkiller just blew up that Star Destroyer in TFU I and why him releasing all his energy destroyed an entire, like, room.

Just did some searches through the TFU2 - no mentions of the feat at all.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
*sigh*
I will be referencing this video, by the way: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boIet7A97II.

Whatever missile is being fired, that's how it appears even without the aid of Starkiller. The missile was deactivated here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boIet7A97II&t=2m30s by the same ball of lightning that Starkiller was later seen activating. So, I accept your concession on that part. We also see the energies that power the ion canon (I think) are lost. That's where Starkiller comes in!

If it is the same type of blast then we go from a blast disabling a large canon to blowing a SD in half. What a power increase! Wonder where it came from?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boIet7A97II&t=2m58s : Starkiller uses his Force Lightning to replenish the energy that is used to activate the device, seemingly.

Or more likely to provide the energy it shoots. After all (according to you) it shoots lightning blasts.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Starkiller than takes a long time harnessing energies to push in the missile into the ion canon for firing. Once in the slot, it seems Starkiller's work is done. The device won't work properly if all Starkiller is doing is flying it through the machine - that's the entire reason why he had to build up the power of those tanks. The amount of speed it takes to go into the slot doesn't add up to the longer duration of time it took in the canon itself and firing. If Starkiller was controlling it, it would have gone the same speed - or maybe faster considering the buildup of energies.

Starkiller isn't moving a missile in there he is smashing forward on the "fire piston" or something of the sort. The whole launching process involve him charging it up with force lightning and then shooting it with force push. It's pretty simple even if it doesn't make any logical sense. Just look at all the machinery it was blown apart and burning.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Its worth noting that it was a unique prototype cannon. We can't really assume we know how it works.

Also its an ion cannon so of course it doesn't shoot a laser.

It was an Ion cannon? Cool. That shows that it was all Starkiller as Ion cannons disable and **** with electronics they don't blow massive starships into thirds.