The Emperor's Wrath vs Dooku

Started by DarthAnt6611 pages

Originally posted by Selenial
God, talk about a public execution. Well said Beni 👆

Any rebuttal against ChaosTheory123? 😮‍💨

Artificial gravity. 👆 The TOR protagonists aren't bouncing around are they? Once Revan pulls them out of the tractor beams or whatever fields are causing the asteroids to float around and get into the gravity field the protags are in. Boom.

He covered that in his response.

Except he didn't. Whatever field the asteroids are "floating" around in is clearly not the same as the one the protags are in which seems to be your typical 1 G. Once the asteroids are out of the tractor beams and into the artificial gravity field they will accelerate downwards.

Sure, but meteoroids generally travel from 11 km/sec to 72 km/sec down towards Earth. And then, assuming it makes its way down to the ground, would be travelling around 2.4km/s. Yet this impact is capable of doing some crazy shit. According to Chaos' calc, the one's Revan was throwing were traveling from 25km/sec to 7,800km/sec (with a 5,000km/sec medium) - enough to utterly turn them into dust. If it is the typical 1 G like you claim, the amount of force Revan is putting on these things is insane. Like, the fastest meteor ever recorded was travelling at 28km/s. Revan utterly surpassed that shit so hard it's kind of embarrassing.

First, I've never bought calcs like that. Secondly, it relies on the speed of the blaster bolt rather than real time. ❌

Edit: I was wrong. In the one you were using he was relying on the speed of turbolasers in a space battle going on in the sky...

Even ignoring the calc, how hard to meteors need to hit the ground to turn to dust? 😬

EDIT: Even the fastest meteor on record has recovered fragments. 😉

A Padawan Thor is turning metal engines and boulders and other junk like that "to dust" as well. The game has bad graphics and a fairly weak engine, it's not capable of animating such things and keeping them around. In other words, it's game mechanics just like disappearing dead enemies.

Well, it's all we have to base off of. We can't simply ignore. And link me to examples of Barsen'thor turning things to dust even half the size of one of the meteors, lol.

The fastest one on record was traveling at 28.6 km/s and was around 8-13 feet in size. The asteroid entered the atmosphere with a kinetic energy of about 4 kilotons (compare to the Hiroshima bomb's 12.5 kilotons). This lone meteor should be around the same size as one of the thirty Revan brought down, yet a shit ton of small fragments were recovered all around Alaska.

Let's be generous and say there were still some rocks around the place, and we got Revan outclassing atomic bombs in kinetic energy. 😉

Nope. Sorry it's a game play mechanic and can't be used for anything. 👆

If that was true, then explain to me how when the boss of the Assault on Tython brings down rocks, they don't have the dust effects and rather land on the ground visibly for quite some time.

Spent more time on it I guess.

Except they updated that Revan boss fight numerous times - even after the Assault on Tython was released. 😬
EDIT: In fact, they specifically updated the models of the meteors and Revan's animation during that specific feat. 😉

Which doesn't change the fact that it's a gameplay mechanic. Just like Thor turning boulders to dust, or dead enemies disappearing, or the characters being unharmed by saber strikes, or hell Starkiller easily disintegrating Stormies with lightning.

Well unlike you, I'm not going to simply ignore feats because they are in a video game. 🙄 That's silly talk.

I should email BioWare about the feat to settle it once and for all though. :mmm:

BTW, I just recounted the meteors. I was wrong. 🙁 40 instead of 30. 😉

If you get a direct quote saying he smashed them to dust and has TK as powerful as nukes I'll agree. Until then...

Final thoughts: Look at the speed the meteors are travelling as they fall down, and then look at the speed they are travelling upon nearing the Inner Sanctum. It's an undeniable difference that would have to be Revan.

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@Ares's: I'll try my best. 😉

I've already addressed that.

And on the subject of the animation the asteroids don't even leave craters...

It did by March 12, 2015. 👆 That gif is pre-Manaan. Anyways, I sent out a PM to SWTOR devs to redirect me to the guys who did the Foundry.