Loki vs Sauron

he may have proven that it wasn't hundreds that Sauron smacked away but the video still shows a huge strength showing in how he consistently flicked 10-12 guys away at a time with no effort whatsoever. That is a strength feat I've yet to see Loki even approach replicating

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Captain America motorcycle throw has nothing to do with this fight, the movie isn't even out, and he isn't even in the thread. Is it your way of trying to win by going off topic about a movie that isn't even out? Saying now that Cap beats Sauron is completely asinine now. I always take cap's side in every fight but its far fetched now to say "oh he would beat Sauron." To add I don't even like Sauron but its foolish to have that kinda discussion. Sauron without his body schooled Gandolf easily.

Did I say Cap beat Sauron I was merely pointing out that Sauron sending a few heavily armored men flying is not something new to Loki. I was merely pointing out that someone as strong as Cap, while not as impressively can do things similar to one of Sauron's few battle feats, can be treated as a child against Loki.

At this point in time in the movies that is really Sauron's best combat feat.

Other then heresay and people wanting to quote the books there are not enough or good enough feats to say Sauron has the strength to bypass Loki's physical durability.

Sauron would be more than capable of replicating the feats if the Necromancer as well. Considering the latter is nothing more than a greatly diminished Sauron.

Originally posted by Newjak
Did I say Cap beat Sauron I was merely pointing out that Sauron sending a few heavily armored men flying is not something new to Loki. I was merely pointing out that someone as strong as Cap, while not as impressively can do things similar to one of Sauron's few battle feats, can be treated as a child against Loki.

At this point in time in the movies that is really Sauron's best combat feat.

Other then heresay and people wanting to quote the books there are not enough or good enough feats to say Sauron has the strength to bypass Loki's physical durability.

I never quoted books.

Gandolf took down Balrog which is a bigger feat then anything Loki has done. And Sauron schooled Gandolf w/o a body.

Sauron>Sauron w/o body>Gandolf>Loki

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I never quoted books.

Gandolf took down Balrog which is a bigger feat then anything Loki has done. And Sauron schooled Gandolf w/o a body.

Sauron>Sauron w/o body>Gandolf>Loki

Loki is stronger
More durable
Has much Higher damage output
They maybe equal fighters although Loki has taken on stronger things than anything in Lord of the Rings and survived, Thor/Hulk

Why is taking down the Balrog a bigger feat than anything Loki has done? What feats did it have? Yes it was big but feat wise the Hulk would tear that thing to pieces and Loki survived an encounter with him.

I don't see the Balrog taking an attack that can blow up cars/helicopters.

Originally posted by Newjak
I don't think Movie Gandalf > than Loki by any means.

Loki is stronger
More durable
Has much Higher damage output
They maybe equal fighters although Loki has taken on stronger things than anything in Lord of the Rings and survived, Thor/Hulk

Why is taking down the Balrog a bigger feat than anything Loki has done? What feats did it have? Yes it was big but feat wise the Hulk would tear that thing to pieces and Loki survived an encounter with him.

I don't see the Balrog taking an attack that can blow up cars/helicopters.

Ah I see you are trolling, nvm. The board will handle ya. Its like you didn't even watch LOTR.

where are you getting the idea that Loki has this huge amount of damage out put? everyone he's gone up against physically has gotten the better of him, even hawkeye was able to catch him unawares with an exploding arrow, even a human like Cap was able to get a few shots in and surprise Loki with his skill, even tho Loki was looking to get caught, Cap still looked good in that fight and against someone thats supposedly as physically powerful as Loki is, thats a low showing for him regardless

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Ah I see you are trolling, nvm. The board will handle ya. Its like you didn't even watch LOTR.

What makes Gandalf better than Loki?

What feats do they have to make them better?

Originally posted by relentless1
where are you getting the idea that Loki has this huge amount of damage out put? everyone he's gone up against physically has gotten the better of him, even hawkeye was able to catch him unawares with an exploding arrow, even a human like Cap was able to get a few shots in and surprise Loki with his skill, even tho Loki was looking to get caught, Cap still looked good in that fight and against someone thats supposedly as physically powerful as Loki is, thats a low showing for him regardless

Originally posted by Newjak
I did watch LOTR and once again what makes the Balrog feat something beyond Loki?

What makes Gandalf better than Loki?

What feats do they have to make them better?

He has more damage output because he has his spear weapon. The thing that can blow up cars helicopters and the like.

It hit the tail of a helicopter and an unarmored cheap police car. 😆

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
It hit the tail of a helicopter and an unarmored cheap police car. 😆

I also like how you ignored the rest of it.

First of all, a bird would destroy a helicopter tail roter. A grenade launcher would do the same thing to a small cheap car.

It didn't destroy a large portion of the stark building, it took off part of the sign. Your acting like the spear he has Odins spear, it wasn't...

New jack, pretty piss poor moves here. Im done talking to you if you going to overhype and exaggerate and lie about feats.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
First of a broom would destroy a helicopter tail roter. A grenade launcher would do the same thing to a small cheap car.

It didn't destroy a large portion of the stark building, it took off part of the sign.

New jack, pretty piss poor moves here. Im done talking to you if you going to overhype and exaggerate and lie about feats.

And Grenade Launcher would still be more firepower than anything shown in middle earth by one person.

YouTube video That is not a small piece of brittle material that gets blown up 🙄

Always have to get the last word in even if it has nothing to do with what I said.

I edited before you compulsively pressed refresh and said "bird"

Loki has his staff and Sauron has his mace, so what are you getting at? Thor hammer was able to counter Lokis staff rather easily, no reason to think Saurons mace wouldn't be able to do the same.

Originally posted by Newjak

And Grenade Launcher would still be more firepower than anything shown in middle earth by one person.

This comment shows that you literally have no clue what you are taking about. A grenade launcher is not more firepower then anything shown in middle earth. You literally didn't watch the movies or have a clue what you are talking about. Trolling 101 here.

Mjolnir's feats >>>>>> mace feats. you have zero basis for claiming that Mjolnir being able to do something means that the mace can replicate it.

and you have zero proof that it can't either, all three weapons are laced with magic but can also be used physically, is it really that big a stretch to think?

Going by on screwn feats Thor's hammer has better feats then the mace.

But going by Saurons mace vs Loki's staff. He was wiping the floor with an Army and would have kept doing so besides pis/cis.

New jack is having a problem understanding that Sauron is above Loki in Magic and strength though.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
This comment shows that you literally have no clue what you are taking about. A grenade launcher is not more firepower then anything shown in middle earth. You literally didn't watch the movies or have a clue what you are talking about. Trolling 101 here.

You should be showing me a feat that supports your claims instead of saying I haven't seen the movie.

Originally posted by relentless1
and you have zero proof that it can't either, all three weapons are laced with magic but can also be used physically, is it really that big a stretch to think?