Black Adam Vs Wonder Woman

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Originally posted by -Pr-
Don't bash people. You want to lowball, there are other forums for that.

As for anyone else in this thread, you might not know this, but it's Bada's birthday today. Who's to say a banning wouldn't help make it a brighter one?

😂 😂

Happy bday Bada.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Wonder Woman is right, Leo wins this.

👆

and happy bday bada. 🙂

Still waiting to hear where I "lowballed" exactly. Very curious.

Black Adam

Originally posted by abhilegend
But you are not posting scans, you're just reposting links from her reddit respect thread. Good job though.👆

lol well, sure. it's a good thread, i don't have all those issues on my computer and most of the ww respect threads have a whole mess of dead links. i see you stealing blair's and bran's scans. so... 👆

How does that translate in being just tired? I don't wanna say anything. The comic says it for me. But yeah, everything you can't counter, just call it PIS. Sound tactic. A one shot KO? Alan was beaten too. The whole team was.

lol so, wait, you are saying what exactly? that alan was one-shotted by...a partial blitz from adam (since the shot that took him out was also aimed at hawkman, who was NOT ko'd....)? and are you saying PG does NOT have durability showings that would indicate this was an OBVIOUS low showing for her? due, stop the nonsense. it's still a good feat for adam, but those WERE pi$$ poor showings for alan and pg. there is NO arguing that.

i call PIS less than anyone in the forum, but this was adam's SHINING MOMENT. if you don't think he had some PIS on his side, well.....i got nothing for you. and let's not forget--alan and hawkman could have ended it. and what, you don't think ALAN and HAWKMAN were weakened? 😂 hawkman was being choked out. EVERYONE WAS WEAKENED. but, as is sorta the norm, you forget that bit and focus on JUST your side....

Again, why would anybody want to open a thread? Its all answered in a comic.

lol yeah, THAT proves cap>ww/jonn/guy/flash/kyle..... dude, you're losing it. but go ahead and open the thread if you're so sure. i'll wait for it. 😄

He was seen fighting General, Amazo and Ubermensch all at once before Grodd, Banshee and Psycho Pirate took him out. Did you even read the scan?

prove psycho pirate had a hand in taking him out. and banshee. i can't even BELIEVE you're trying to push that scan. i like adam--so do everyone a favour--drop that scan.....

He thunderclapped and returned to talking with his people. PG is either too stunned or koed because she was basically bloodlusted at that point.

so...you have no idea if she was ko'd. imagine my shock at this point.

http://i.imgur.com/6ML710b.jpg

😑 are you ok.....? there is literally, no mention of a ko in that scene. 🤨

Oh, c'mon, do you really think she was outflying the shards at millions of times speed of light and having conversation with Steve Trevor?

it. is. a. comic. i'm just trying to imagine if ADAM had performed this feat and how you'd be wanking it. lol it's an extremely impressive speed display, no matter what you think. still haven't seen an equal from adam.....

PG herself said Cap was faster than her in JSA 34.

cool. scan?

That's not a blitz in any sense, she just rammed her from Canada at superspeed.

MUCH different from yours amiright? lol

That Amazo didn't even has any speed showings, it was Amazo's mind in a damaged Red Tornado body. Vixen later blitzed and tore it apart.

bro, THIS is why people....have trouble with you. you showed a scan of adam TEARING THE HEAD OFF an amazo that showed ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, and yet, you pooh-pooh a feat from a ww scan that has FAR MORE context. your scan showed NOTHING. the amazo adam decapitated didn't do ONE SINGLE THING. yet you downplay MY scan?? how do you not choke to death on your owm double standards. 😂

let me finish with this, then i'll get to some scans. i confess--i've fallen into his little trap--i've been dragged down to his level and am "debating" some of this. 😮

but it IS kinda fun. 😄

Originally posted by Star428
What? Lowball? Where did I do that?

Since you asked:

Originally posted by Star428
LOL. I've already addressed this silliness. BA is way too fast and battle savvy for WW to get the lasso around him and her superior skill is useless against someone who is much faster, stronger, and more durable. I swear sometimes it feels like i'm goddamn talking to myself. Can people like u not read properly?
Or perhaps you"re just trolling and enjoy making me repeat myself?

I literally just had to scroll up the page to find that one. In fact, I could most likely just grab any handful of your posts in this thread and I'm willing to bet that the majority would have lowballing in them.

I get that you have this view of Diana being far weaker than the guys in that tier, but it doesn't jive with the comics.

^Fun for the rest of us too.

Now do carry on... 😛

Originally posted by -Pr-
Since you asked:

I literally just had to scroll up the page to find that one. In fact, I could most likely just grab any handful of your posts in this thread and I'm willing to bet that the majority would have lowballing in them.

I get that you have this view of Diana being far weaker than the guys in that tier, but it doesn't jive with the comics.

LOL. That's not lowballing, but whatever. I'm done arguing with blind stubborn WW fanboys, anyway. And yes, it does "jive" with the comics. I guess you're as blind as everyone else if you can't see it.

Star, I think you should add Pr to your ignore list 👆

Originally posted by abhilegend
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Must be right, right?

just goes to show you how effective rhetoric is. best not to use it. mission accomplished. 👆

btw, doesn't detract from her feat.

That's not actually real if you've actually read the comic.

🤨 well, now you are simply outright lying. of course it happened. the setting was a typical qof unreality, but ww absolutely beat her. and given the way you've talked qof up in the past, that must really burn you.... 😂 anyway, the fight certainly DID happen:

http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/qof.jpg.html

she disappeared to lick her wounds. maybe instead of telling people THEY should read the issues, you should do so.....?

Well, why would it matter if she used skills or not?

because i was using it to SHOWCASE HER SKILL. 😐

Haha, GTFO. Deimos had no feats of power at all.... But let's pretend she uses it every time in a fight.

who said she'd use it every fight..? 😕 could she use it to seriously injure or kill adam? absolutely. it killed a god. a greek god. the same gods whom marvel got his power from at the time.....

She didn't beat the hell out of him, she breached his force field by his own constructs.

you're a piece of work sometimes.... lol she absolutely beat the hell out of him.

John beat her twice in Rebirth, Kyle oneshotted her in Virtue and Vice, a clone of Guy with his ring oneshotted her and Maxima at once. Should I go on? That's as far from truth as it can be. She didn't beat him at all, let alone demolished him.

scans of the losses? and wtf are you talking about she didn't let him beat on her?? lol you can't be this delusional. she held out her hand and did not fight back. THEN held out her hand AFTER he wailed on her uncontested and she was still standing! 😂

Superman wasn't amped there, she didn't catch his punch and she said she would die in two or three punches by that Superman.

i...i....just can't deal. circe UNLEASHED all his anger and gave it physical form. just....f'n LOOK AT HIM. and she catches his fist in the 7th scan down. holy f***, i can't believe i have to count the scans for you.

That's just a retelling of WW 219.

still canon. 👆

And who would be stronger than him there? PG? J'onn? He demolished both of them in seconds. That's as far from truth as it goes.

😂 so, in one scan, (the JLA one) you use jay as a reliable narrator right? now, in this one, you say he's full of sh!t? this is priceless....

He has taken JSA apart with his bare hands, fought Captain Marvel to a standstill, fought Superman to a standstill, punched through Spectre, at 1/3rd power taken on JSA and was winning, taken on literally everyone in DC minus Superman and kicked their asses. Its not about wanked arcs, he is just that damn powerful. But yeah, lets call everything Adam does PIS and wanked and warp the shit out of everything Wonder Woman has done.

really? the spectre stuff was cool, but meaningless in the grand scheme. fought supes to a standstill? where is this extensive fight? aside from jonn and cap, where are his great fights against dc's greats? where has he fought hal? kyle? flash? where are all his feats? let's SEE some of these great feats! that WAS the purpose of this whole thing after all.....

I've shown you his feats. You just handwaved the away as PIS and ninja law.

not at all. i already acknowledged his feats are good. do i think it's pis that PG is ko'd when she's tossed to the ground? yeah. when alan is....'nearly beaten' from a collateral hit? um, yeah. the rest were basically chumps compared to him. you somehow think those were what, TYPICAL showings for those characters? well, i KNOW you don't, but to admit that here would throw the whole jsa battle into doubt.

Lets see all those low showings from Adam which you claim there are. Flash facts: wonder woman had the worst record against heralds than any top tier character I can think of. She doesn't has a single genuine win against a Superman level character. Heck, she doesn't has a genuine win against Power Girl level character. Lanterns, Martians, Etrigan, Marvels, kryptonians etc all have a winning record against her.

sweet, more lowballing. if you're so sure she actually LOST all those fights, go ahead and show them. i'd love to take apart your interpretations. 🙂

also--notice, no scans to support--just more excuses and lowballing. my points stand: ww is faster (don't think so, prove it wrong), far more skilled, has a WEAPONS to use that can easily incapacitate adam, is his peer in strength and durability. you've shown nothing but a wanked arc where he spent most of his time beating on characters well below his level.

anyway, enough with that. here she shows how deadly her lasso can be when needed:

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=fazgyg&s=5#.VUk-wflVikp

http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/lasso.jpg.html

and there is UTTERLY no reason why she couldn't do THIS to adam and simply compel him to say his magic word:

http://static.comicvine.com/api/image/original/2150536-wwmm1a.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/api/image/original/2150537-wwmm1b.jpg

for those who haven't seen it, here is the dust up with cm:

http://static.comicvine.com/api/image/original/2149903-wwcm1a.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/api/image/original/2149905-wwcm1b.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/api/image/original/2149906-wwcm1d.jpg

now, you said something about his being 'weakened'? proof?

incidentally, as far as no wins vs a lantern:

http://static.comicvine.com/api/image/original/2153348-wwgl1a.jpg

😂

i never bothered to show some scans, like the zoom scans (that show her durability among other things), her wounding of rao (which is very impressive given how ineffectual everyone else was), her feat with konvict, etc.... they are well known, and not among her best though they are still quite good.

here she nonchalantly shrugs off a NUKE:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11117/111175242/3993895-1933421-1658630_wonder_woman__31___page_22_super.jpg

she weathers that nuke much better than most top tiers deal with nukes.

and again, there are more. i doubt anyone who is so in favor of ba will be swayed by....anything, but MAYBE someone will realize that this really IS a very close fight after all and more often than not could go either way.

i myself would still take adam for the slightest majority--5.5/10. same as i'd take marvel. but each fight would be extremely close.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Star, I think you should add Pr to your ignore list 👆

does that guy still post here? 😂

Imo, smothering an exploding warp core in Green Lantern without a scratch is even more impreseive then the nuke.

That said, Sacrifice is one fight among others where she's looked less good.. That stupid reboot story where he fights gladiator style Zod, and looked quite a bit slower.. That time she was possessed by Eclipso and got taken down by fairly easily by a pretty weak lineup. When she fought Darkeid and was squashed.

Not to say she doesn't have better showings, like War of Gods vs Cap. It's just, she gets overshadowed by Supes like everyone else, while the Marvels seem to be the exception to that rule. They're on his tier in every way, and one of the few who get treated like true peers of DC's flagship character.

None of that stuff matters since she has an automatic win in the lasso. Stagger BA then lasso him while he's staggered.

Originally posted by Star428
LOL. That's not lowballing, but whatever. I'm done arguing with blind stubborn WW fanboys, anyway. And yes, it does "jive" with the comics. I guess you're as blind as everyone else if you can't see it.

Well, that's an... Interesting, reply.

Either way, don't lowball.

Originally posted by leonidas
lol well, sure. it's a good thread, i don't have all those issues on my computer and most of the ww respect threads have a whole mess of dead links. i see you stealing blair's and bran's scans. so...
That's because I'm a lazy guy and don't want to upload all thos scans again.

lol so, wait, you are saying what exactly? that alan was one-shotted by...a partial blitz from adam (since the shot that took him out was also aimed at hawkman, who was NOT ko'd....)?
Yes. We see him getting up after Fate and Fury arrive.
and are you saying PG does NOT have durability showings that would indicate this was an OBVIOUS low showing for her? due, stop the nonsense. it's still a good feat for adam, but those WERE pi$$ poor showings for alan and pg. there is NO arguing that.
So, its not a good showing for Adam but low showings for JSA. Yeah, PIS, low showing, ninja law, any way you can handwave them away. Try harder.

i call PIS less than anyone in the forum, but this was adam's [b]SHINING MOMENT. if you don't think he had some PIS on his side, well.....i got nothing for you.
No shining moment. Never mind the fact that he was taking JSA apart from his debut in that comic.
and let's not forget--alan and hawkman could have ended it. and what, you don't think ALAN and HAWKMAN were weakened? hawkman was being choked out. EVERYONE WAS WEAKENED. but, as is sorta the norm, you forget that bit and focus on JUST your side....
Tell you what, point me where they were explicitly stated to be weakened. Especially Alan's green flame.

lol yeah, THAT proves cap>ww/jonn/guy/flash/kyle..... dude, you're losing it. but go ahead and open the thread if you're so sure. i'll wait for it.
Why are you flat out ignoring the scans if you are willing to argue about it? Do you see me simply ignoring every scan from you?

prove psycho pirate had a hand in taking him out. and banshee. i can't even BELIEVE you're trying to push that scan. i like adam--so do everyone a favour--drop that scan.....
What the hell? We clearly see them subduing him with a TP attack in the third last panel and Psycho Pirate saying that he'll calm him down.

That's why Adam killed him FFS.

so...you have no idea if she was ko'd. imagine my shock at this point.
So, you have no idea of her whereabouts either? Imagine my shock at your handwaving.

are you ok.....? there is literally, no mention of a ko in that scene.
She flat out states that they went away while she was down and surrounded. Why don't you post the scene where she didn't act because of her cover being blown or something considering she wasn't even having any secret identity at that point.

it. is. a. comic. i'm just trying to imagine if ADAM had performed this feat and how you'd be wanking it. lol it's an extremely impressive speed display, no matter what you think.
Its internally inconsistent with the level of speed you are thinking it is. The same shards didn't even leave orbit while chasing her but they could fly from the edge of the universe? get real.
still haven't seen an equal from adam.....
Because its a shitty speed feat.

cool. scan?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/9/98379/1973419-34_06.jpg

MUCH different from yours amiright? lol
Yes, he actually blitzed her and koed her in one attack.

bro, THIS is why people....have trouble with you. you showed a scan of adam TEARING THE HEAD OFF an amazo that showed ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, and yet, you pooh-pooh a feat from a ww scan that has FAR MORE context.
Meaning the Amazo had ring and the lasso for shits and giggles, right?
your scan showed NOTHING. the amazo adam decapitated didn't do ONE SINGLE THING. yet you downplay MY scan?? how do you not choke to death on your owm double standards.
Because tearing Amazo's head off is better than getting ass raped by Amazo methinks. But tell me, do you know how Amazo's power works?

l

et me finish with this, then i'll get to some scans. i confess--i've fallen into his little trap--i've been dragged down to his level and am "debating" some of this.
You started this level of debating with essentially handwaving all of Cap and Adam's feats away with PIS/ninja law/shining moment/whatever.

but it IS kinda fun. 😄 [/B]
Its not.

Originally posted by leonidas
[B]just goes to show you how effective rhetoric is. best not to use it. mission accomplished.

btw, doesn't detract from her feat.

What feat?

well, now you are simply outright lying. of course it happened. the setting was a typical qof unreality, but ww absolutely beat her. and given the way you've talked qof up in the past, that must really burn you....
Not really, it was a typical illusion from QOF.
anyway, the fight certainly DID happen:

http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/qof.jpg.html

She injured her dragon form and that's why she was blinded. It didn't made any sense but yeah hurting her as never been too hard. Typical reality warpers.

she disappeared to lick her wounds. maybe instead of telling people THEY should read the issues, you should do so.....?
You think I haven't?

because i was using it to SHOWCASE HER SKILL.
To place her in a chokehold. Supergirl did the same. What's the difference?

who said she'd use it every fight..? could she use it to seriously injure or kill adam? absolutely.
Yeah, sure.
it killed a god. a greek god. the same gods whom marvel got his power from at the time.....
Deimos was never a very powerful god. But I like how being a god is enough to confirm him at Adam's power level. Guess Warrior Three are Superman level after all.

you're a piece of work sometimes.... lol she absolutely beat the hell out of him.
Yeah, show me the scan where that happened.

scans of the losses?
John oneshotted her along the rest of the league. The she woke up and was shown fighting him but he beat her off panel and came to attack Ganthet.

Kyle oneshotting her.

Guy's clone oneshotting her.

http://imgur.com/eHx0R8a
http://imgur.com/jUkgUIZ
http://imgur.com/ZRc3Xka
http://imgur.com/tANd48U
http://imgur.com/AgvYJst

Wally also thought she would be killed by a mindcontrolled Kyle in one blast.

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/halfmilp2.jpg

Her record against Lanterns isn't good at all.

and wtf are you talking about she didn't let him beat on her??
Where did I say that? Are you drunk? I said she didn't beat him.
lol you can't be this delusional. she held out her hand and did not fight back. THEN held out her hand AFTER he wailed on her uncontested and she was still standing!
And who said she didn't? I said she didn't beat him.

i...i....just can't deal. circe UNLEASHED all his anger and gave it physical form. just....f'n LOOK AT HIM.
Yeah, he was all spiky as it was his anger given physical form. Where did ita mp him?
and she catches his fist in the 7th scan down. holy f***, i can't believe i have to count the scans for you.
Are you ****ing out of your mind?

He is pressing down on her from a few inches above her hand. That's not a punch in any way.

Not to mention she says that he is too strong and will snap her arms in that position.

You know what's a punch catch?

still canon.
What? Since when retellings become a separate fight?

so, in one scan, (the JLA one) you use jay as a reliable narrator right? now, in this one, you say he's full of sh!t? this is priceless....
That was J'onn actually who was narrating in WWIII. At least read the scans. But yeah, all those stronger heroes? Who were they Leo?

really? the spectre stuff was cool, but meaningless in the grand scheme.
Why would that be?
fought supes to a standstill? where is this extensive fight?
Action Comics 831.
aside from jonn and cap, where are his great fights against dc's greats?
Hal and John actually ran away from him in 52.
where has he fought hal? kyle? flash?
He was casually breaking Kyle's constructs in POS. Something Diana has never done.
where are all his feats? let's SEE some of these great feats! that WAS the purpose of this whole thing after all.....
What's the point? You'll just handwave them all away.

not at all. i already acknowledged his feats are good. do i think it's pis that PG is ko'd when she's tossed to the ground? yeah. when alan is....'nearly beaten' from a collateral hit? um, yeah. the rest were basically chumps compared to him. you somehow think those were what, TYPICAL showings for those characters? well, i KNOW you don't, but to admit that here would throw the whole jsa battle into doubt.
Again with PIS? JSA were beaten fair and square, its not like they were written in Adam's book or something. Its the same writer who had written all of JSA's spectacular fights.

sweet, more lowballing. if you're so sure she actually LOST all those fights, go ahead and show them. i'd love to take apart your interpretations.
Which fights do you want?

also--notice, no scans to support--just more excuses and lowballing. my points stand: ww is faster (don't think so, prove it wrong), far more skilled, has a WEAPONS to use that can easily incapacitate adam, is his peer in strength and durability. you've shown nothing but a wanked arc where he spent most of his time beating on characters well below his level.
You have shown nothing but unrelatd scans. I've actually shown him beating characters who are her exact equals or better. You've shown some random scans.

anyway, enough with that. here she shows how deadly her lasso can be when needed:

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=fazgyg&s=5#.VUk-wflVikp

http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/lasso.jpg.html

Yeah, because Silver Swan and some random demons are surely Superman level and extrememly resistant to magic.

and there is UTTERLY no reason why she couldn't do THIS to adam and simply compel him to say his magic word:

http://static.comicvine.com/api/image/original/2150536-wwmm1a.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/api/image/original/2150537-wwmm1b.jpg

So that's your logic, that she'll sneak up on Adam and order him to revert in a fight? Good God.

for those who haven't seen it, here is the dust up with cm:

http://static.comicvine.com/api/image/original/2149903-wwcm1a.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/api/image/original/2149905-wwcm1b.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/api/image/original/2149906-wwcm1d.jpg

now, you said something about his being 'weakened'? proof?

Son of Vulcan informs us that he was weakening as Roman gods mindcontrolled him.

incidentally, as far as no wins vs a lantern:

http://static.comicvine.com/api/image/original/2153348-wwgl1a.jpg

You mean she needs to distract him and pull the ring off to get a win against Kyle? Whoa, that's like Batman level.

i never bothered to show some scans, like the zoom scans (that show her durability among other things), her wounding of rao (which is very impressive given how ineffectual everyone else was), her feat with konvict, etc.... they are well known, and not among her best though they are still quite good.

here she nonchalantly shrugs off a NUKE:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11117/111175242/3993895-1933421-1658630_wonder_woman__31___page_22_super.jpg

A nuke would also have killed her in JLA 56. Funny how that works.

she weathers that nuke much better than most top tiers deal with nukes.
Like who? Even Iron Man has tanked nukes. Superman pretty much laughs at nukes.

and again, there are more. i doubt anyone who is so in favor of ba will be swayed by....anything, but MAYBE someone will realize that this really IS a very close fight after all and more often than not could go either way.
No, it isn't. No matter how much you want to deny it, Marvels have shown themselves a level above her preboot. Cap's fight aginst Superman or Spectre, Adam's whole ramapage in WWIII, those are beyond Wonder Woman.

i myself would still take adam for the slightest majority--5.5/10. same as i'd take marvel. but each fight would be extremely close. [/B]
Adam would at least get 7/10 against her. Same with Cap. She just doesn't has offensive output to take them down.

Here is a better image.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's because I'm a lazy guy and don't want to upload all thos scans again.[b/]

and i got download limits, so....

Yeah, PIS, low showing, ninja law, any way you can handwave them away. Try harder.

are you actually aware of the [b]FULL CAPACITY RULE our little forum has? nowm you've completely ducked the question twice, let me rephrase--do you think in the scene you showed alan and PG both fought to their full capacity...?

Tell you what, point me where they were explicitly stated to be weakened. Especially Alan's green flame.

lol first, explain WHY adam was weakened....? alan was 'nearly beaten'. but i'm sure that means he was what, 100%? hawkman was being choked out? also full strength, yes? this line is pointless.

Why are you flat out ignoring the scans if you are willing to argue about it? Do you see me simply ignoring every scan from you?

😂 ignoring, no. making excuses, of course. and most importantly--i never once ignored your scan. it's a good feat for marvel, no doubt. your conclusion is moronic. THAT is what i take issue with. suddenly, because of that scan, marvel can now beat the sh!t out of ww, kyle, flash, et al., ALTOGETHER. i've said, open the thread, see how long it stays open before it is closed as spite! it would be almost immediately. why? because if each fought to full capacity they would SLAUGHTER marvel as a unit, that is why. those kinds of scenes happen all the time. deathstroke beat the jla. batman has wrecked the jla. hal has demolished them. you showed john stewart lol taking them all out. prometheus has wrecked them. your marvel scene is just one in a long line of those types of scenes. cool, impressive but NOT what you're making of it. not even close.

What the hell? We clearly see them subduing him with a TP attack in the third last panel and Psycho Pirate saying that he'll calm him down.

jeezus, still? i didn't even notice that tiny bit of psycho pirate the first time. but...who f'n cares? so he was kidnapped and beaten by pp. wtf are you even trying to get at? open a thread and throw all those guys against adam and see what happens. again. you won't, of course, because you KNOW what would happen. just leave it alone. it does not help you.....

She flat out states that they went away while she was down and surrounded.

so....she wasn't ko'd she was....surrounded by people who were concerned about her because they thought she was a regular human? i agree. 👆

seriously, i'm starting to lose faith in you. people DID surround her. lol to see if she was ok. lois quickly made up an excuse to explain the smashed wall! why? because they didn't want anyone to know she was ww! c'mon bro....your interpretation is staggering.

Its internally inconsistent with the level of speed you are thinking it is. The same shards didn't even leave orbit while chasing her but they could fly from the edge of the universe? get real. Because its a shitty speed feat.

lol double standard much? but it's perfectly consistent for alan to be ko'd by a partial blow, pg to be put out by a single slam, marvel to beat a combined. you must be trolling me a little bit with this sh!t.... 😂

Meaning the Amazo had ring and the lasso for shits and giggles, right? Because tearing Amazo's head off is better than getting ass raped by Amazo methinks. But tell me, do you know how Amazo's power works?

lol again, who cares? maybe it was a good feat. we don't know because we have no idea how adam got behind him, we have no idea the level of that amazo. it looks cool, but you are the only one who would ever use that type of showing and leap to the conclusions you are.

You started this level of debating with essentially handwaving all of Cap and Adam's feats away with PIS/ninja law/shining moment/whatever.

actually it was you who started with the double standards, lowballing and misleading interpretations of scans i'm afraid.... i was pm'd and urged to report you for lowballing! lol i didn't but some of what you've said is utterly ridiculous....

it's not.

aw, don't be like that. 😄

too much nonsense to reply to, so i'll hit the highlights:

Originally posted by abhilegend
She injured her dragon form and that's why she was blinded. It didn't made any sense but yeah hurting her as never been too hard. Typical reality warpers.

so....it did happen and she beat her. i agree. 👆

John oneshotted her along the rest of the league. The she woke up and was shown fighting him but he beat her off panel and came to attack Ganthet.

the ballz on this guy.... 😂 i see superman get one shot, everyone else down and diana still fighting....who the hell knows what happen after that. you're the only guy i've ever seen here that would say someone who was still fighting was one-shotted then beaten off panel when we never even see her beaten. do you....not see the problem with that? 😑

Kyle oneshotting her.

omg. she was hit through a wall. OMGZZZ!! and??? this farce just gets better and better....that is NOT a one-shot. man, i'm running out of words to describe this display....

Guy's clone oneshotting her.

i think i'm finally beginning to understand your problem. you are confusing someone getting hit through...something (building, window, etc...) with someone being one shot. so, guy lashed out and smacked them away. that doesn't mean they were one-shot ko'd!

where is the scan that PROVES they were knocked out? like pg's sucker punch was a "one-shot" but we see diana reaching through the rubble? like khyrana's one-shot that was never a ko? i mean, this is just asinine. even forgetting about the fact that it was a sucker shot as they tried talking him down! holy sh!t bro....

Wally also thought she would be killed by a mindcontrolled Kyle in one blast.

lol more rhetoric? 👆

Yeah, he was all spiky as it was his anger given physical form. Where did ita mp him? Are you ****ing out of your mind?

cuz doubling in size and gaining spikes that act as unbreakable spears is a downgrade amiright? lol

He is pressing down on her from a few inches above her hand. That's not a punch in any way.

facepalm

SHE CAUGHT HIS LEFT HAND THAT WAS READY TO HIT HER. 😐 the spike was actually DRIVEN THROUGH HER HAND. but she STILL caught it! geezus, you can SEE the impact from the motion lines drawn. you really will reach for anything once cornered, eh? i can't believe you say handwave that away and yet support that pg scan. unbelievable...

Who were they Leo?

lol who cares who he was talking about? my point is, you pick and choose which narration and character-speak to use, based on which ones SUPPORT your character, but as soon as a character says something to support the OTHER side, you whine about it. so, yeah, jay is reliable, but jonn isn't, nor is batman. and especially impressive is the fact that sometimes you use only PART of what is said by the SAME CHARACTER--ie--POWERGIRL who seems to say she marvel is faster but she is stronger. but you only believe the first part, not the second. but if she's wrong about the second, she should/could be wrong about the first. you're turning misrepresentation into an art form. 😂

What's the point? You'll just handwave them all away.

the only thing i wave away is your misrepresentation of the scans, not the scans themselves. nor do i try and make more from the scans than they offer. as you do.

Which fights do you want?

ANY fight. something new where he went 1on1 against a top tier guy.

You have shown nothing but unrelatd scans. I've actually shown him beating characters who are her exact equals or better. You've shown some random scans.

the point was to show and compare scans. facepalm

Yeah, because Silver Swan and some random demons are surely Superman level and extrememly resistant to magic.

way to miss the point. 👆 the lasso has already been a factor:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/7/73552/2174183-wwlasso_1.jpg

also depowered him in virtue and vice iirc. i'll find it when i get a chance.....

So that's your logic, that she'll sneak up on Adam and order him to revert in a fight? Good God.

nope, but her skill would def allow her to wrap him up in it for some wins.