Originally posted by Galan007
Well, Beerus/Whis are officially heading to King Kai's world to confront Goku... Which means that episode 4 will likely have caught up to the beginning of BoG.Also, if anyone wants to try and quantify Goku's lifting feat, based on the size of the weights, here you go:
It's easily in the range of thousands tons; also, since it is a feat performed under 10G, with the same exercised force, under normal gravity, Goku would obviously lift 10 times the weight.
Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, and he didn't appear to be struggling in the slightest with that weight... He was repping it easily.
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And remember, Goku is probably doing all this using physical strength alone, while when fighting, his base form would also being imbued with Ki.
According to Herms:
Goku's stats are these:
Power (top)
Speed (right)
Stamina (bottom)
Ki (left)
For each graph, the white portion of the quadrilateral represents Goku’s abilities pre-training, and the black portion represents his post-training abilities. Also, the graph always shows Goku’s normal power, not his Super Saiyan power.
The size of each quadrilateral on the graph comes from adding up all the stars given to each stat through all the training so far. They don’t show you the totals in number form, only through the graph. Each notch on the graph seems to represent 5 star points. The circle that Goku’s stats are placed inside up to Kaio’s training is labeled “Saiyan limits”; Goku’s stats surpass this circle after his spaceship training, and so a bigger circle is drawn around the old circle, and the old circle kept around for comparison’s sake.
It also is stated that Ki is enahnced with meditation, while gravitational treanings purpose is to increase the physical strength.
It can be seen how Goku's Ki started to actually developing only during the training with Kami before the 23rd Budokai: now, exactly at the 23rd Budokai, in order to increase his pure physical strength, Goku found useful to go around wearing weighted clothes (nearly 120 kg), however, when fighting (i.e. with Ki), he was capable to easily flip a hundred tons giant Piccolo like it was nothing.
Now, the last picture refers to base Boo saga Goku (who is nearly equal with base Goku pre BOG): it is possible to see how each of his stats exponentially increased if compared to his 23rd Budokai days, so, if with his phisycal strength is now capable to casually lift thousands tons, just think what he could with Ki (always in hs base form).
Then, you have to add the Ssj, Ssj2 and Ssj3 transformations, with each of them increasing Ki and phisycial strength, so his Ssj3 strength output would be absolutely impressive to say the least.
And don't let me even mention the SSGSS transformation: with that, Goku is surely strong as hell.
Originally posted by Galan007
AFAIK, no one has ever flown to the Kaioshin world. Teleportation has always been used to get there.
Whis and Beerus...?
Also, another question...wich villan was "more times" (like 3x more) stronger than the heroes in DBZ ? Freeza final form ? Androids 18/19 ? Fat Buu...?
Originally posted by AuraAngel
Whis can slip through space and time to time travel. Of course he can cross dimensions lol.
Yeah, but his trans-teleportation is just him flying really fast. It doesn't make sense that he was able to fly to Other world, without some kind of legitimate teleportation. That would suggest that Other world exists in the real world, or that there is some kind of medium to travel there from the real world.
Either way, it makes no sense.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Yeah, but his trans-teleportation is just him flying really fast. It doesn't make sense that he was able to fly to Other world, without some kind of legitimate teleportation. That would suggest that Other world exists in the real world, or that there is some kind of medium to travel there from the real world.Either way, it makes no sense.
This is a dude who at a whim can travel back in time without creating a split universe(which is how Trunks did it). Getting to a Kai planet through a different dimension isn't unlikely at all lol.
Originally posted by Galan007Did Elder Kai say Buu would make his way to the Kaioshin Planet? He would have had to done that by flying...
When did they fly to the Kaioshin planet?But even if they ever do, I'd imagine that Whis' flight is not bound by 'mortal' parameters.
Never happened but it make you think
Originally posted by eaebiakuyaNorth Kai's planet is still within the same sphere as the mainstream DBU.
I mean north kai planet.
Originally posted by bbrem123True, but this is the same being who can rip holes in dimensions just by shouting. That, coupled with his ability to sense ki, might have led him there. Dunno. /shrug
Did Elder Kai say Buu would make his way to the Kaioshin Planet? He would have had to done that by flying...Never happened but it make you think