Dragon Ball Discussion Thread

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Post crisis Superman kiled the pre crisis level pocket universe phantom zone criminals.

Superheroes don't kill because there's usually other options, like super jails and such. In the case of Dragon Ball, no prison made can contain a lot of those characters, so killing is the only option.

Goku understood that when he fought Piccolo Sr. He killed much of the Red Ribbon Army, too.

He spared Piccolo's son partly because Kami can't exist without him being alive. No Kami, no Dragon Balls.

He helped Piccolo kill Radditz, too.

Ridley_Prime Smug icon slayer

Well we've seen how Batman normally not killing the Joker and things like that tend to work out (gets out of jail, kills again). I see what you're saying though.

Kento The last Hokage

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Not seeing how Goku sparing others (in Z) is any worse than comic superheroes continually choosing not to kill their worst enemies. Of course there's gonna be some repercussions to being heroic/wanting to do the right thing, even though part of it in Goku's case was wanting another sparring partner.
It's more the motivation of not doing it. He would let them go just to figh them again after nearly dying by them in hopes to fight again. He didn't care that Vegeta killed dozens of innocent Namekians, would have killed Krillen or Gohan if he hadn't needed them. He wouldn't have cared had Freeza destroyed galaxies, as long as its not killing his friends, gives him a good fight he wants them alive. Superman and Spider-Man won't kill cause moral reasons. Batman doesn't kill because it doesn't serve his purpose to strike fear into enemies.. Batman is also terrible as a hero. Motivations are more key than do they kill or not . Vegeta will still kill, but he's also still a much better person than Goku nowadays anyway.. Vegeta doesn't have the urge to endanger everyone anymore, he has grown as a character from evil to how Goku acts now, with him letting Cell become perfect, to caring about people and having some joy at his unborn daughter coming.

Least that's my outlook. Gohans the real heroic one in DB anyway.

Inedian Senior Member
Originally posted by carver9
Goku never had the chance to take the tournament back. He initiated it and they told him the consequences. He then asked if he talked to them, would it change their minds and Beerus told him to leave it be. Goku thought it was just going to be a fight, the Zenos made it something much more.

Exactly. They are really exaggerating about Goku.

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Originally posted by Inedian
Exactly. They are really exaggerating about Goku.

Future Trunks visits: "So what are you guys up to?"

Vegeta: "Kakarot asked the Zeno's to hold a tournament."

Trunks: "And the loser gets their universe erased?"

Vegeta: "How did you know?"

Trunks: *stares*

Vegeta: "Oh, right."

Kento The last Hokage

Wow... the manga has now changed everything about Black arc in this newest chapter. It was just small changes up until now, and now nothing is the same, except Goku learning the Mafuba.

Damborgson King of the Damboys

training training is similar also. I like manga vegeta more than anime vegeta to be honest.

Said something akin to "I'll beat that smug super saiyan rose bullshit"

NewGuy01 perpetual

👆 The manga continues to be far better than the anime. Although, I'm still disappointed that Zamasu and Goku never met in the present timeline... Still happened in my headcanon, lol.

StiltmanFTW CBvF

Manga had Gotenks go SSJ3 vs. Beerus. Why the movie and the show failed to do that is beyond me...

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Didn't the movie do that?

StiltmanFTW CBvF

No. You drink too much, otherwise you'd have remembered.

BoG had Gotenks go only SSJ.

Damborgson King of the Damboys

So the English Dub had a pretty well touched up fight in Beerus and Goku, I had high hopes for it, but the vegeta fight looked almost untouched , and I now noticed the major difference in the old dubs and this dubs vegeta voice. Its not BAD but...ugh. I hope I get some awesome Vegeta yells like in Z at some point.

wakkawakkawakka Senior Member

If RoF's dub was any indicator, the over-the-top awesome Z yells are a thing of the past. Though still irritating that the movie recaps are a thing.

StiltmanFTW CBvF
Originally posted by Damborgson
So the English Dub had a pretty well touched up fight in Beerus and Goku, I had high hopes for it, but the vegeta fight looked almost untouched , and I now noticed the major difference in the old dubs and this dubs vegeta voice. Its not BAD but...ugh. I hope I get some awesome Vegeta yells like in Z at some point.

Sabat got old or what?

Kento The last Hokage

Originally posted by Damborgson
training training is similar also. I like manga vegeta more than anime vegeta to be honest.

Said something akin to "I'll beat that smug super saiyan rose bullshit"

I am starting to think Vegetto won't appear in the manga. Or freaking spirit sword... which would be great if those don't appear. Though manga will do it better as they actual explain things instead and their power levels haven't jumped around everywhere . Present Trunks training also was funny.. cause its with Pilaf.

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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
No. You drink too much, otherwise you'd have remembered.

BoG had Gotenks go only SSJ.

Been cutting back actually. Biggest mistake of my life, never had this problem sober (that I could remember, which means it never happened shut up....)

StiltmanFTW CBvF

Yeah, same here... but there is no real cutting back when it comes to drinking, only the very momentary retreat, so the deteriorating organs can heal a little. Catching up with drinking is the only thing that happens faster than Flash running...

carver9 Senior Member

Are you not afraid of the results?

Damborgson King of the Damboys
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Sabat got old or what?

That's the thing, he was doing the voices not too long ago, at for fans. I don't know why he's not doing Vegeta anymore.

ares834 Senior Member

Sabat is voicing Vegeta.