Dragon Ball Discussion Thread

Originally posted by cdtm
Look at that rationalization 😆

Yeah, Goku went SSJ Blue but was using base level power. It couldn't be Krillin flat out held off a Kamehameha 😂

He kicked Gohan out of bounds, that by itself should have been impossible.

So much for the vaunted Dragon Ball speed. Krillin kept up with a SSJ and SSJ Blue just fine, and even seemed a step ahead.

Becuase it's as I already explained. Their bodies don't get much tougher/stronger, they get just more Ki (Mana) for using their spells and depleting the shields of others. Their attacks only become stronger with new techniques and have a clear limit against non Ki enemies. Amping works only that much. Goku getting almost killed by a simple laser, hurt by bullets. Their fighting speed is around WW level, their duability without Ki shields around Aquaman, their strength too. Only their energy output is at trans levels though also there most of it is directed at the ki defenses of their enemies. They can get hurt by far far less then their energy output, if it is just physical.

Originally posted by cdtm
Look at that rationalization 😆

Yeah, Goku went SSJ Blue but was using base level power. It couldn't be Krillin flat out held off a Kamehameha 😂

He kicked Gohan out of bounds, that by itself should have been impossible.

So much for the vaunted Dragon Ball speed. Krillin kept up with a SSJ and SSJ Blue just fine, and even seemed a step ahead.

You're right. Krillin is>>> Base Goku>>>>>>Super Saiyan Goku and = to Superman Saiyan Blue. I'll make that Hit vs Krillin thread. Make sure to go in there and give your opinion.

Thread made...

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=641411

Please post your response.

Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
That Goku getting scratched by a bullet BS was worse. Going back that, a random street gang would rapestomp Raditz with zero effort..

DragonBall characters can drop their power level all the way down to 0. This was shown during the tournament when Goku asked the Z fighters to power down. This was also shown when Goku fought the Ginyu Force. He obviously wasn't powered up when facing the human thugs and he sure as hell wasn't giving it his all against Krillin.

Originally posted by carver9
DragonBall characters can drop their power level all the way down to 0. This was shown during the tournament when Goku asked the Z fighters to power down. This was also shown when Goku fought the Ginyu Force. He obviously wasn't powered up when facing the human thugs and he sure as hell wasn't giving it his all against Krillin.

Originally posted by carver9
You're right. Krillin is>>> Base Goku>>>>>>Super Saiyan Goku and = to Superman Saiyan Blue. I'll make that Hit vs Krillin thread. Make sure to go in there and give your opinion.

You know wouldn't it be alot more simple to just chalk recent events up to Toriyama/Toei just doing whatever the hell they want?

This isn't the first time that complete nonsense has happened in this series and actively trying to make reason where there is none seems to only confuse people even more.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
You know wouldn't it be alot more simple to just chalk recent events up to Toriyama/Toei just doing whatever the hell they want?

This isn't the first time that complete nonsense has happened in this series and actively trying to make reason where there is none seems to only confuse people even more.

It would not surprise me in the slightest even if they came out with an episode revolved around Mr. Satan feeling down about being weak and regaining his confidence by knocking one of Goku's teeth out with a sucker punch only to explain it away as Goku making the mistake of "letting his guard down."

Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
Oh c'mon. Lets stop pretending this show makes sense. Or need I remind you of Namek Final Form Frieza > Buu Saga Base Goku > Buu Saga Base Vegeta > Buu Saga Piccolo > Android 17 > Android Saga Vegeta > Namek SSJ Goku > Namek Final Form Frieza. 😂

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Since when is base Vegeta > Piccolo?

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Since when is base Vegeta > Piccolo?

I always thought Piccolo didn't want to touch him because of his status, not his power.

Originally posted by Damborgson
I always thought Piccolo didn't want to touch him because of his status, not his power.

Forgot if I posted this earlier (don't think I did), but it really put things into perspective for me on the absurdity of power scaling, which went as far back as Frieza.

YouTube video

edit: Holy screen stretch bro.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Forgot if I posted this earlier (don't think I did), but it really put things into perspective for me on the absurdity of power scaling, which went as far back as Frieza.

YouTube video

edit: Holy screen stretch bro.

Where he screwed up was the following arcs. Immediately from the getgo, he should have either A) Taken Goku out of the picture for a while (explain it as him being out in space) long enough for the rest of the cast to catch up and improve; or B) Immediately stop making power-levels the be-all-end-all of fights and start making everyone compensate for unique ki-skills. It works in Hunter x Hunter, so I don't see why it would not have worked here.

Instead, he lazily made the next villains a threat based on how they were marginally "stronger" than previous villains. He then did the same thing with the next arc. As a result, the power scaling is ridiculous and he more or less had to nuke 90% of the main cast.

edit: Didn't notice until after the edit-time limit. Sorry.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Becuase it's as I already explained. Their bodies don't get much tougher/stronger, they get just more Ki (Mana) for using their spells and depleting the shields of others. Their attacks only become stronger with new techniques and have a clear limit against non Ki enemies. Amping works only that much. Goku getting almost killed by a simple laser, hurt by bullets. Their fighting speed is around WW level, their duability without Ki shields around Aquaman, their strength too. Only their energy output is at trans levels though also there most of it is directed at the ki defenses of their enemies. They can get hurt by far far less then their energy output, if it is just physical.

And that is why Superman punch's Goku's heart out of his chest before he can see him move.

Originally posted by cdtm
And that is why Superman punch's Goku's heart out of his chest before he can see him move.

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Originally posted by cdtm
And that is why Superman punch's Goku's heart out of his chest before he can see him move.

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Originally posted by cdtm
And that is why Yamcha punch's Goku's heart out of his chest before he can see him move.

Originally posted by Yamcha
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