Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
Preview for an upcoming episode detailing Universe 7's surprise backup member.
Originally posted by Kento
Well, for base Goku vs Krillin, at least that's a much more reasonable ordeal. Cause his base in the manga isn't as overpowered as it is in the anime.
But does it really make a difference?
At the point of Frieza Saga, Goku's base was 40x stronger than Krillin.
We know this gap could only have gotten much, much bigger since.
You only need to be 2x stronger than someone to troll them without effort. Refer to SSJ2 Gohan vs Cell.
Goku's base should already leave plebs like Krillin in awe. Even turning SSJ1 would be going beyond overkill already.
Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
Looking forward to the cockamamie explanation it gives for Krillin being able to hang with SSB Goku. 😂
I doubt it will happen; the tournament of power arc is supposed to be wildly different in the manga.
Also, Trunks isn't equal to SSJ Goku/Vegeta. They're stronger than SSJ Black, who could beat Trunks in base, and according to Vegeta it would be impossible for Trunks to defeat SSJ Black at his current level.
Originally posted by PlacidityI mean, Krillin standing up to a ssb in a beam struggle for any amount of time is just wrong. But in the anime, even knocking base Goku back with a beam just seems implausible. While in the manga it would seem a bit more reasonable to push Goku back with a beam like at the start of the fight.
But does it really make a difference?At the point of Frieza Saga, Goku's [b]base
was 40x stronger than Krillin.We know this gap could only have gotten much, much bigger since.
You only need to be 2x stronger than someone to troll them without effort. Refer to SSJ2 Gohan vs Cell.
Goku's base should already leave plebs like Krillin in awe. Even turning SSJ1 would be going beyond overkill already. [/B]
Originally posted by NewGuy01Goku and Trunks fought in the manga and Goku had to use god form to beat Trunks. So yea, he was pretty much equal to them in ssj1, 2, and 3 forms. Just not in the anime.
Also, Trunks isn't equal to SSJ Goku/Vegeta. They're stronger than SSJ Black, who could beat Trunks in base, and according to Vegeta it would be impossible for Trunks to defeat SSJ Black at his current level.
Uh, no. In SSG he one-shotted him so fast he didn't know what happened. I'll repeat myself once more: SSJ Vegeta, who was wrecking SSJ Black, said that Trunks would be no match for him. We know this is true, because Black consistently beat Trunks in his base form. Now I might agree that the whole "Saiyan Beyond God" thing might have been dropped or nerfed in the manga, but Whis's training has definitely made a hugeimpact on their battle power.
In other news, according to the Supreme Kai in the manga, SSB Vegetto might be stronger than Beerus. That said, fused Zamasu was literally blitzing SSB Goku/Vegeta in the manga, so the power scale is probably totally different... take it as you will.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Uh, no. In SSG he one-shotted him so fast he didn't know what happened. I'll repeat myself once more: SSJ Vegeta, who was wrecking SSJ Black, said that Trunks would be no match for him. We know this is true, because Black consistently beat Trunks in his base form. Now I might agree that the whole "Saiyan Beyond God" thing might have been dropped or nerfed in the manga, but Whis's training has definitely made a hugeimpact on their battle power.In other news, according to the Supreme Kai in the manga, SSB Vegetto might be stronger than Beerus. That said, fused Zamasu was literally blitzing SSB Goku/Vegeta in the manga, so the power scale is probably totally different... take it as you will.
Vegeta called Goku a "dirty cheater" for using Blue against Trunks. 😆
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Uh, no. In SSG he one-shotted him so fast he didn't know what happened. I'll repeat myself once more: SSJ Vegeta, who was wrecking SSJ Black, said that Trunks would be no match for him. We know this is true, because Black consistently beat Trunks in his base form. Now I might agree that the whole "Saiyan Beyond God" thing might have been dropped or nerfed in the manga, but Whis's training has definitely made a hugeimpact on their battle power.In other news, according to the Supreme Kai in the manga, SSB Vegetto might be stronger than Beerus. That said, fused Zamasu was literally blitzing SSB Goku/Vegeta in the manga, so the power scale is probably totally different... take it as you will.
Zamasu Arc was clearly diiferent from the anime...what happened between Fused Zamasu and SSB Vegetto?
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Eh, it's pretty different. Vegetto actually beats on him way harder, but this version has Zamasu keeping his perfect regen.
So Vegito couldn't hurt him and then he unfuses?
I haven't read this chapter with Fused Zamasu and SSB Vegito, but overall I prefer anime much more than manga. Black was also pussy in manga. Anime Hit also > manga Hit.
Whether it's potara or the silly dance, it's been established that time limit grows shorter and shorter the stronger the fusion is, making it nigh useless by this point.
Compared to those like NewGuy whose mostly for the manga differences and others like Inedian whose more for the anime differences (at least as far as like the Zamasu arc and Hit's level of power), I seem to be somewhere in the middle ground...
Rose gets the super people all wished for...