Originally posted by AuraAngel
People think the problem with Lucas is that he is untalented or arrogant. Nah. His problem is being thin-skinned.Toriyama does whatever he wants because at this point he's earned it.
Really? I thought that doing whatever he wanted because he'd earned it was what gave us Episodes 1-3?
So rage-boosted Vegeta got in a few decent blows against Beerus... They did less than nothing, of course(though it was awesome to see him use the Galick Gun again, lol.)
Beerus also stated that it required 1/10(ie. 10%) of his power to defeat rage-boosted Vegeta:
He also stated that rage-boosted Vegeta was a better opponent than SSJ3 Goku:
(which means Beerus dealt with Goku using less than 10% of his power.)
And since we know that Beerus used 70% of his power against SSJG Goku, it means that the SSJG multiplier is somewhere in the ballpark of 60-70%> SSJ3... Which is likely a far less impressive multiplier than some around here had hoped for.
*Of course, all of this is still subject to change. As of now, however, those are the numbers we have to work with. 🙂
Originally posted by Galan007Me and you got different subs, how are you so sure this one is correct?
So rage-boosted Vegeta got in a few decent blows against Beerus... They did less than nothing, of course(though it was awesome to see him use the Galick Gun again, lol.)Beerus also stated that it required 1/10(ie. 10%) of his power to defeat rage-boosted Vegeta:
He also stated that rage-boosted Vegeta was a better opponent than SSJ3 Goku:
(which means Beerus dealt with Goku using less than 10% of his power.)
And since we know that Beerus used 70% of his power against SSJG Goku, it means that the SSJG multiplier is somewhere in the ballpark of 60-70%> SSJ3... Which is likely a far less impressive multiplier than some around here had hoped for.
*Of course, all of this is still subject to change. As of now, however, those are the numbers we have to work with. 🙂
Originally posted by Galan007Yup 👆
So rage-boosted Vegeta got in a few decent blows against Beerus... They did less than nothing, of course(though it was awesome to see him use the Galick Gun again, lol.)Beerus also stated that it required 1/10(ie. 10%) of his power to defeat rage-boosted Vegeta:
He also stated that rage-boosted Vegeta was a better opponent than SSJ3 Goku:
(which means Beerus dealt with Goku using less than 10% of his power.)
And since we know that Beerus used 70% of his power against SSJG Goku, it means that the SSJG multiplier is somewhere in the ballpark of 60-70%> SSJ3... Which is likely a far less impressive multiplier than some around here had hoped for.
*Of course, all of this is still subject to change. As of now, however, those are the numbers we have to work with. 🙂
as of now SSG is really not that great of a boost. But it is strange. We see that Vegeta and Goku at this point were well above even mystic gohan. I am curious to where they land power level wise.
The only way we will know the depth in power with Super Saiyan 3 Goku and Super S God Goku is by knowing the percentage of power he used against Super Saiyan 3 Goku. He probably didn't even use a fraction of his power which means that the God amp could be more significant than what people are saying here.
And since we know that Beerus used 70% of his power against SSJG Goku, it means that the SSJG multiplier is somewhere in the ballpark of 60-70%> SSJ3... Which is likely a far less impressive multiplier than some around here had hoped for.*Of course, all of this is still subject to change. As of now, however, those are the numbers we have to work with. 🙂
Not really, I'm just glad they're giving us usable numbers now.
So Bills at somewhere between 4%-10% power is in the ballpark of one-shotting SSJ3 Goku, Ultimate Gohan, and Majin Buu.
Ridiculous numbers still in play at this point, tbh.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Not really, I'm just glad they're giving us usable numbers now.So Bills at somewhere between 4%-10% power is in the ballpark of one-shotting SSJ3 Goku, Ultimate Gohan, and Majin Buu.
Ridiculous numbers still in play at this point, tbh.
It doesn't work like that though. Bulls probably didn't even use 1% against Goku. We have no way of knowing that and let's not say that such a small percentage being used isn't possible. Frieza was using .025% of his power back during the Namek saga and still ruled the Galaxy/Universe without a challenge.
Also, even though Bulls ramped up to 10% of his power, lol, he still took Vegeta out with a touch. It's not like he struggled to do anything even though he ramped his power up that high.
The argument could easily be made for that, Carver, but being conservative let's say Bills used 5% of his power against Goku/Buu/Gohan.
Continuing to be conservative given how bad the stomps were, let's say 5% Bills was only 3x stronger than them.
That would still make Whis something like 75x stronger than Buu, Goku, Gohan, etc. For a particularly conservative number, that's pretty ridiculous.