Dragon Ball Discussion Thread

Started by Ridley_Prime633 pages

Originally posted by carver9
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I think everyone has acknowledge this. The show is still making huge amounts of money though. Loving it


Even Z had some of its inconsistencies; was just poking fun and thought some of those ones for Super were still worth pointing out.

The one that still tops 'em all though is Gohan getting as weaker as he did four years or so after the Buu saga to RoF where he got winded out after just going SSJ, compared to the seven years of not training after the Cell Games but was still able to hold SSJ2 well then.

Still disagree on this show being better than Z as a whole, but I'm glad some are happy as they are with it now at least.

Finally got around to watching this again and just saw the baseball episode.

That episode was fantastic. I couldn't stop laughing.

I don't know how abridged can parody Super more then it parodies itself.

That's like trying to make a "Samurai Pizza Cats Abridged" show. Sort of pointless.

I agree with the training being the key to Vegeta owning Black in their rematch.

Me agreeing with Carver.....Someone kill me.

Originally posted by carver9
While in Blue and Black not even powered up, he laughed at Vegeta attacks. Hell, he blitzed Vegeta without Vegeta even being able to see him move. That's their first encounter.

Their second fight, Black is in his pink form. His most powerful form. He became stronger AFTER his first fight with Vegeta, kept getting more powerful. After all of this, Vegeta STOMPS him. There is a humongous difference here. Vegeta received a HUGE boost.

That amounts to a lot of nothing. Vegeta trains all the time, in the time chamber or in hundreds of times gravity trying to push himself and characters who don't surpass him with ease. Yes Vegeta got stronger, but in the end he still wasn't leaps and bounds above Goku who didn't get any training, and Trunks was able to outshine Vegeta, with rage saiyan mode and Spirit sword. Even Father son Garlic Gun. Vegeta gets millions of times the training of anyone and still manages to be somewhere too 3 or 4. So no, his hour of training was not, by all previous times shown, greatly enhancing him to the point it's going to matter at all. Vegeta probably barely Makes top 5 on his own team even with that extra month of training. [/B][/QUOTE]
Originally posted by Zack Fair
I agree with the training being the key to Vegeta owning Black in their rematch.

Me agreeing with Carver.....Someone kill me.

Yea, training did help with that. But the point isn't, training doesn't make vegeta stronger. It's that training in the spirit and time room doesn't make Vegeta as strong as he could because he's terrible at training. He went from stronger than Goku in Cell, to being vastly weaker, and couldn't catch up in a second year. He didn't surpass Goku with his training against Black either, when Goku did 0 training except to learn Mafuba. That's the point, Vegeta's spirit and time room training before ToP isn't going to amount to much.

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Meanwhile in 4D land

You gotta be a real fan to travel from the US to Japan to watch this 4-D movie!

So it seem Broli is God level, but not blue? I thought God mode usually means you have red hair?

I would hope there'd be a bit more praise for the Dragon Ball Fighters game here, especially when Yamcha posted about that obscure Fusion game along with the obscure 4D movie. uhuh 😛

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
The one that still tops 'em all though is Gohan getting as weaker as he did four years or so after the Buu saga to RoF where he got winded out after just going SSJ, compared to the seven years of not training after the Cell Games but was still able to hold SSJ2 well then.

After the Cell Games Gohan was powerfapping in SSJ2 form, but after he married Videl he got so castrated that masturbation was no longer allowed.

Also Vegeta actually keeps in shape because he's a wanker 👆

Originally posted by vansonbee
You gotta be a real fan to travel from the US to Japan to watch this 4-D movie!

So it seem Broli is God level, but not blue? I thought God mode usually means you have red hair?

Also red or rose.

Or Freeza's "**** god ki" golden mode.

Originally posted by Kento
That amounts to a lot of nothing. Vegeta trains all the time, in the time chamber or in hundreds of times gravity trying to push himself and characters who don't surpass him with ease. Yes Vegeta got stronger, but in the end he still wasn't leaps and bounds above Goku who didn't get any training, and Trunks was able to outshine Vegeta, with rage saiyan mode and Spirit sword. Even Father son Garlic Gun. Vegeta gets millions of times the training of anyone and still manages to be somewhere too 3 or 4. So no, his hour of training was not, by all previous times shown, greatly enhancing him to the point it's going to matter at all. Vegeta probably barely Makes top 5 on his own team even with that extra month of training.
Yea, training did help with that. But the point isn't, training doesn't make vegeta stronger. It's that training in the spirit and time room doesn't make Vegeta as strong as he could because he's terrible at training. He went from stronger than Goku in Cell, to being vastly weaker, and couldn't catch up in a second year. He didn't surpass Goku with his training against Black either, when Goku did 0 training except to learn Mafuba. That's the point, Vegeta's spirit and time room training before ToP isn't going to amount to much. [/B]

Vegeta admitted as much himself in the Buu saga.

He trained harder, yet couldn't even match his SSJ2 power level without the Majin amp.

Originally posted by vansonbee
You gotta be a real fan to travel from the US to Japan to watch this 4-D movie!

So it seem Broli is God level, but not blue? I thought God mode usually means you have red hair?

Broli never had the same look as anyone else as a super saiyan so it would make sense he looks different.

Originally posted by vansonbee
So it seem Broli is God level, but not blue? I thought God mode usually means you have red hair?
It seems like another form unique to Broly due to him being a genetic freak. Found this on the wiki though and thought it was interesting "This form bares a slight resemblance to the description of the original design of Super Saiyan God, as described by Tadayoshi Yamamuro,[1] and is possibly based off it."

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
I would hope there'd be a bit more praise for the Dragon Ball Fighters game here, especially when Yamcha posted about that obscure Fusion game along with the obscure 4D movie. uhuh 😛
Hey! My obscure posts all involved Broly though, wait until DBFZ announces Broly as a playable character then you'll find me posting about it 😛. In all seriousness though, it looks great I'm shocked that what we're seeing is only 20% done, I'm eager to actually see a viable fighter though for DBZ in the fighting game community, I've always been an avid fan of fighting games (Atm Tekken 7 has it's hooks in me) and the FGC so DBFZ is looking promising, ESPECIALLY that it's being worked on by the dudes who did Guilty Gear which again, big fan of, so it definitely has me excited, I love the intros/outros a lot too (Vegeta's victory point and smirk, so good)..little details like that go a long way for me lol.

Lol...i just seen the ranking of the GOD of D and the bearded guy is the strongest, Gin is second and Champa is last. Hit couldn't beat Champa and Jin is stronger than him. Hit is going to get killed.

I thought we accepted tiers and consistency don't mean crap in this crazy show.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
I thought we accepted tiers and consistency don't mean crap in this crazy show.

He's the one you shouldn't expect consistency from.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...i just seen the ranking of the GOD of D and the bearded guy is the strongest, Gin is second and Champa is last. Hit couldn't beat Champa and Jin is stronger than him. Hit is going to get killed.

Those are rankings of universes, not gods. And isn't Sidra last?

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...i just seen the ranking of the GOD of D and the bearded guy is the strongest, Gin is second and Champa is last. Hit couldn't beat Champa and Jin is stronger than him. Hit is going to get killed.

So much about Freeza having a chance against Sidra hahahaha.
I don't know how anyone even gave him a chance, while it was very clear in episode itself he wouldn't stand a chance against Sidra, not even close.

Jiren ain't stronger than any GoD. He would stomp Hit though.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Those are rankings of universes, not gods. And isn't Sidra last?

How could that be ranking of universes when we know that U9 is on the last place, while Champa is in U6. Champa is weakest GoD, while Sidra comes from the worst universe.