Dragon Ball Discussion Thread

Started by Kento633 pages

You're asking a lot cdtm. That's too many episodes and a lot of effort. When I could be playing video games instead.

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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Hey, guys... people are making memes about cdtm:

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Toriyama interview info:

1. Vegetto didn't appear in Toriyama's original draft during the black arc. Toyotaro did it to appease fans, which Toriyama thought was a good idea.

2. Merged Zamasu wasn't supposed to be that strong, in Toriyama's original draft 2 SSB's could defeat him.

3. I'd argue the manga is more canon than the anime, as Toyotaro had Toriyama personally approve and make corrections to his manga adaptation: "For the future Trunks arc, most of the time Toriyama approved Toyotaro's manga rough drafts on the first go-round, but he did offer corrections at times."

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Toriyama interview info:

1. Vegetto didn't appear in Toriyama's original draft during the black arc. Toyotaro did it to appease fans, which Toriyama thought was a good idea.

Well, that makes sense. His appearance was pretty short and irrelevant.

What do you think about the manga being more canon than the anime? Or at least more accurate to Toriyama's original draft?

I'd imagine executive meddling is much more likely on a cash cow show then on a more obscure Viz marketing gimmick.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
What do you think about the manga being more canon than the anime? Or at least more accurate to Toriyama's original draft?
😆 This is what I have been saying since the beginning.. Cause Toyotaro changes things based on what Akira says before getting it out. Or Akira will be like that's a better idea and junk. Toei just does what they want. Always have. That's why Vegeta's colro scheme was messed up in the saiyan arc. That's why Goku could take Super Buu in the anime. That's why Kid Buu didn't slaughter ssj1, and ssj2 Goku like he did Vegeta.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
What do you think about the manga being more canon than the anime? Or at least more accurate to Toriyama's original draft?

I had always believe that was likely to be the case.

Originally posted by carver9
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Ippo is an anime., Since you're laughing at a joke about how I hate anime, I'm guessing you didn't know that.

You should see it more then anybody. To try a GOOD anime for a change.

Both the Anime and the Manga are Canon material. The manga is following the Anime anyways. It can't write everything that is shown in the Anime due to conserved pages, but, the Manga is pulling it's material from the Anime with a couple of changes. It's impossible for the Manga to be more Canon than the Anime since the Manga is feeding off of the Anime. It's like saying everything that is happening in the Anime right now isn't Canon until the Manga produces it's material.

And Carver thinks the manga is adapted from the anime.

We know this isn't true. They're seperate projects, adapted from the same script. This is why you get Super Kaioken in one, and mastered SSJ Blue in the other, and different "filler" fights like Beerus vs Vegeta, Trunks vs Goku, and the God of Destruction tournament in manga, and Vegeta vs Trunks or Goku vs Hit rematch in the anime..

Carver, the manga isn't adapted from the anime. Toriyama sends his drafts to both Toyotaro and Toei, and they both do their own adaptations.

The catch is that Toyotaro also has Toriyama look over his work to see if Toriyama approves it/see if Toriyama wants to make any changes, whereas Toei just does what they want without Toriyama's direct approval/consent. Toriyama is the ultimate canon, so I'm gonna assume the Source he looked over and approved has more canonicity than the source that has no approval/consent from Toriyama.

Works for me.

Me too.

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Manga is way more consistent (though still not entirely consistent, but that's a given for almost any fiction,) and is just better in general imo.

Personally I think the anime has better highs, but the manga is so much more consistent it gives us a base on how to rank these guys, which I enjoy at least. And it's pretty darn well written too.

And in the manga we don't get Zeno's that are treated like idiots so Grand Priest can explain to the audience every episode things we should already know.

That's right, the manga doesn't insult the readers intelligence.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Carver, the manga isn't adapted from the anime. Toriyama sends his drafts to both Toyotaro and Toei, and they both do their own adaptations.

The catch is that Toyotaro also has Toriyama look over his work to see if Toriyama approves it/see if Toriyama wants to make any changes, whereas Toei just does what they want without Toriyama's direct approval/consent. Toriyama is the ultimate canon, so I'm gonna assume the Source he looked over and approved has more canonicity than the source that has no approval/consent from Toriyama.

He is approving both though. Him reviewing things doesn't take away from the fact that it is approved material from the same guy. Both are just as Canon and both WILL be used as material for any Z fighter.