Originally posted by ares834SSJ Blue doesn't stand a chance against Beerus either though. Not that it matters. We don't watch this show for consistent (or even good) storytelling. We're more or less the two Zenos. 😂
Nope. Goku said that fusion wouldn't stand a chance against Beerus and then Vados said it multiples their power "tens of times". It's simply that Kale is almost on par with SSG Goku.
Originally posted by cdtmMakes about as much sense as Jiren sitting in on spot just long enough for Goku to figure out how to access ultra instincts form again as opposed to wiping out everybody in the ring and immediately ending the tournament.And wtf is a Potara even doing in the tournament? I assume dance fusion because no outside objects, otherwise why wouldn't Goku and Vegeta have one and clean house?
Originally posted by ares834
Nope. Goku said that fusion wouldn't stand a chance against Beerus and then Vados said it multiples their power "tens of times". It's simply that Kale is almost on par with SSG Goku.
SSJ God Goku was taking them both until they fused. Clearly two SSJ Blues would be a hell of a lot stronger.
Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
Makes about as much sense as Jiren sitting in on spot just long enough for Goku to figure out how to access ultra instincts form again as opposed to wiping out everybody in the ring and immediately ending the tournament.
Given the stakes, that's absoluetly retarded (And I can say that as a retard!)
People supporting this tripe look more the troll for defending it..
Damn, can’t even edit here now, but as for Kefla beating Goku Blue (presumably, haven’t looked at all the spoilers), that can pretty much be chalked off due to the fact Goku hadn’t yet recovered all his energy after the Jiren fight, so she comes off stronger against him as a result. There pretty much had to be some sort of handicap for this to even be a fight.
XD I'm super enjoying this episodes with Kale and Caulifla.
Though it really does seem Kale can't tap into her berserk power while in control. Because berserk mode even made Jiren twitch, then gains control, and nobody cares about her power. And Kefla... 'No limit to her power'. How can somebody not have a limit to her power, and then still need ssj. But daaang, Kelfa... I can't wait to see how this is handled in the manga. I can't wait to see how Berserk Kale is handled also.
Originally posted by Kento
XD I'm super enjoying this episodes with Kale and Caulifla.Though it really does seem Kale can't tap into her berserk power while in control. Because berserk mode even made Jiren twitch, then gains control, and nobody cares about her power. And Kefla... 'No limit to her power'. How can somebody not have a limit to her power, and then still need ssj. But daaang, Kelfa... I can't wait to see how this is handled in the manga. I can't wait to see how Berserk Kale is handled also.
It was said that Kale became even more powerful when she got out of berserk mode. 3 times more powerful to be more precise. With that said, this proves that Goku was holding back tremendously during their first fight. Goku tends to have a habit of doing this.
Originally posted by Kento
And yet, SSJ Kale can't handle a weaker form than one she plowed through with ease. Her powering up didn't destroy the arena. Simply waving her hand didn't nearly knock Goku and Caulifla away. I mean, she was keeping up with ssg, but still.
Goku was holding back like he always does. Vegeta and Goku outright admits he holds back during battle to make things interesting. He wasn't near serious and this is why I was telling you all that you over hyped Goku showings against his friends. The guy holds back, this has been out right said and you all still ignore this and think he is going full throttle in all of his fights. He has been holding back since his childhood and he is still doing it now. This proves that he held back against Berserk Kale. This is why Jiren didn't think of her as a threat and casually took her out.
She's powerful but she is no where close to the big dogs.