Dragon Ball Discussion Thread

Yeah. That has evidently been retconned.

Or just has to do with ssj3, because ssj3 is just a huge energy burner, while the rest of the forms aren't.

Contemplating a fanfic, opinions:

The premise is a rift between the two Zeno's, with the "good" Zeno being represented by the blue aura from Super's opening, and the "evil" Zeno having the red aura. There's a power shift, with the head angel backing evil Zeno, while a smaller resistance of angel's backing the good one. Beerus, of course, is with Whis, but a majority of GoD's are with the head angel, with the other angel's staying neutral.

There will be scenes like Beerus, flawed MUI Goku, Jiren, Broly, and Beerus, all taking on over a half dozen GoD's at once. Whis and Vados will fuse and fight the head angel side by side with Gogeta. The two Zeno's will effectively be acting as MAD's, with neither willing to risk a Doomsday scenerio.

The endgame will have Gogeta and Wadeos getting soundly defeated by the head angel, threatening to destroy the remaining heroes himself, and then the last minute play coming in the form of none other then:

Mr. Satan.

Who I plan to have single handedly KO the head angel, and evil Zeno, with his Satan Megaton Punch.

The logic being, that if Angel's use skill over power, they just might be vulnerable to an average attack they can't see coming. And Satan is so weak, he simply wasn't registered as a threat and caught head angel with his pants down, mid rant.

By the same token, the Zeno's physical strength has always been in question, so I figure why not?

Thematically, Mr. Satan saving the day seems appropriate, what with his role in the Buu saga..

What if Vegeta replaces Goku against Golden Freezer in ROF? Vegeta would make a better work than Goku and kill Freezer in the process or also lose the battle?

RoF Golden Freeza was arguably more powerful than SSB Goku initially. The reason Freeza lost is because of the stamina issues that form had at the time.

That being said, a battle with Vegeta would have likely gone much the same way.

Vegeta would get beaten down worse. Less finesse then Goku, goes charging in like a bull, if he doesn't have more power then someone he's got nothing.

Freeze may have used more energy fighting Vegeta. After all Vegeta loves to spam blasts and he was close enough in power to be able to hurt Freeza in them.

But Vegeta would have just pulled a Vegeta and lost so .

Originally posted by cdtm
Vegeta would get beaten down worse. Less finesse then Goku, goes charging in like a bull, if he doesn't have more power then someone he's got nothing.

You're just mad because either of them could stomp Supes in less than a nanosecond.

YouTube video

The reason Vegeta was getting frustrated/impatient with Goku was because he was waiting for Goku to find the weakness of noob Golden Frieza which Vegeta had already figured out when he was watching them.

So yeah, the result of Vegeta fighting Frieza in RoF first wouldve been the same.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
The reason Vegeta was getting frustrated/impatient with Goku was because he was waiting for Goku to find the weakness of noob Golden Frieza which Vegeta had already figured out when he was watching them.

So yeah, the result of Vegeta fighting Frieza in RoF first wouldve been the same.

See, but it was Goku who wore him down in the first place.

If that was Vegeta, he would have done something stupid like lock up in a test of strength and get his arms ripped off. He always finds a way to lose, it's what he excells at.

DBS chapter 55 (spoilers):

https://imgur.com/VsPHW5i

And also one Vegeta fight:

https://mobile.twitter.com/hype4leaks/status/1207579529234903040

And Merus is the Wiss's little brother:

https://imgur.com/x3gXPBY

Does anyone have a link to the official s2 trailer?

As of now, season 2 is still grounded.

It was allegedly going to be announced months ago, but that has since been postponed. Toei hasn't given any updates since.

Originally posted by Galan007

Goku also likened a comment Merus made about eating to something Whis had once said to him:

So yeah, it seems pretty clear at this point that Merus is(or at least was) an Angel.

Does this mean Goku doesnt HAVE to eat? He just chooses to eat.

So yeah...

Goku and the crew have become so powerful... its waaaaaaaayyyy past time they stopped this thing with them being dependent on ships. Let these characters fly through space. Had a feeling he was an angel. He was waaaaayyyy to powerful to be anything else. Didnt know the Angel's couldnt die.

Powerful, but still mortal.

Originally posted by Kento
Powerful, but still mortal.

And this is why more characters can beat them then they think.

Freeza got it. He lost the fair fight, and simply blew up the earth.

A fast character with super breath could simply use his powers to create a vacuum and suffocate MUI Goku. Especially if said character had far superior speed feats, any way you look at it, so Goku could not avoid it.

Originally posted by carver9
Didnt know the Angel's couldnt die.

I also thought it was interesting that Merus was about to use his FULL power against Goku before Whis intervened:

Granted, we don't know how powerful Merus is compared to, say, Whis... But the fact that an Angel was about to use his full power against Goku speaks volumes about his [Goku's] power now.

And on that note, it looks like Goku has learned how to tap into UI(Omen) at will now.

Compare the aura we glimpsed here:

To his Omen aura here:
https://i.imgur.com/KhsPonU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OyqXtlo.jpg