Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Hm... If SSJ God can be attained by surpassing one's previous physical limits through training, then it kinda takes away from the specialness of the form, and makes the super saiyan ritual kinda pointless, unless that was just a convenient shortcut for Goku to reach it at the time... Nevertheless, am all for Vegeta catching up to/surpassing Goku through his own different means.
Whis isn't training Vegeta in a normal fashion...the training Whis is doing made it possible for Vegeta to sense Godly kai. So I wouldn't say someone like Gohan could go out and train and all of a sudden become a god of gods.
It was said to be twice as heavy? Whis said he made Vegeta's twice as heavy as before. Nothing about what Goku's weighed. There is no way that Vegeta is lifting twice what Goku was.
Also Goku says Vegeta might even be stronger. Which implies that they are close in strength even if Vegeta was superior.
Whis even comments on how Vegeta is slower than Goku. Which also implies a close level of power.
Or am I seeing this wrong?
Originally posted by bbrem123
It was said to be twice as heavy? Whis said he made Vegeta's twice as heavy as before. Nothing about what Goku's weighed. There is no way that Vegeta is lifting twice what Goku was.Also Goku says Vegeta [B]might
even be stronger. Which implies that they are close in strength even if Vegeta was superior.Whis even comments on how Vegeta is slower than Goku. Which also implies a close level of power.
Or am I seeing this wrong? [/B]
I took it as Vegeta had the most weight since he was already use to the training. Goku hasn't made it to the point Vegeta is at training wise.
True, he did say that which gave me an indication that Vegeta could be stronger.
Originally posted by carver9
Whis isn't training Vegeta in a normal fashion...the training Whis is doing made it possible for Vegeta to sense Godly kai. So I wouldn't say someone like Gohan could go out and train and all of a sudden become a god of gods.
I like the anime man. I'm still a little lost over Vegeta's new comic relief antics, but meh I will take it if it means him being on par with Goku and getting more spotlight.
Goku is still retard supreme though. Dude making me laugh left and right. I like him more in this series than I ever did.
I like how they had Vegeta and Goku push each other away during their brief 2 on 1 match with Whis. Shows how the 2 of them have a long way to go before fighting as one. Should be a joy to see them fighting as one. Fusions be damned. And come to think of it...who knows if them becoming a real tag team duo that complements each other would make their fusion even more deadly.
Looking forward to the next episode. Hope Frieza's arc is not as long as Bill's. I want new stuff man.