Dragon Ball Discussion Thread

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
That's what I was asking. Buu was also caught in the destruction and there was no confirmation of him regenerating.

Originally posted by Q99

But who could have ever guessed that Frieza, as a sore loser move, would blow up the planet? 😉

Originally posted by Astner
From a writer's perspective: Would the showing of Buu's survival changed the plot in any way?

Yes and No.

No, we can say that since Fat Buu is a weaker version of the Buu's, he's limit of durability and regen caps at planet level.

Yes. Then it means that in the whole Buu saga, Fat Buu was never hit with anything of significant, and that the only Buu's to have a good defense and regen are Kid and Super Buu.

Originally posted by Astner
From a writer's perspective: Would the showing of Buu's survival changed the plot in any way?

The end result would remain mostly unchanged however it is odd having a character known for impressive regen and surviving in space not display either of those things.

you could alway chalk it up to Buu having his guard completely down.

They seem to really be pushing that point. They even show how Beerus never has his guard down even when sleeping. Idk just a thought

What happened to the wish Goku made to bring boo back as a good person?

oh yea. Was that removed?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
What happened to the wish Goku made to bring boo back as a good person?

Originally posted by SquallX
Yes and No.

No, we can say that since Fat Buu is a weaker version of the Buu's, he's limit of durability and regen caps at planet level.

Yes. Then it means that in the whole Buu saga, Fat Buu was never hit with anything of significant, and that the only Buu's to have a good defense and regen are Kid and Super Buu.

Well, it's still Frieza's power in there somewhere even if Buu did die. Frieza who's a couple hundred times more powerful than Buu at that stage.

But there's nothing to say he did die. I don't know why people would expect the first thing that he did in under 3 minutes would be to regenerate and wave to the camera or the Z Fighters. It's a pretty safe assumption that he was probably regenning or something since he can breath in space (which was said why Frieza survived).

On another note, this is the first time that it's been shown for Hercule to die surprisingly. Glad they reversed it so technically Hercule never died though. Still immortal.

Master Roshi is immortal as well. Don't know why I brought that up since he lived.

Given the ridiculously haxxed power that post-training Freeza was touting, I really don't see what the issue would be even if he did kill Fat Boo..? A proverbial 'last-ditch' blast from him *should* be able to do so, imo. /shrug

Originally posted by Galan007
Given the ridiculously haxxed power that post-training Freeza was touting, I really don't see what the issue would be even if he did kill Fat Boo..? A proverbial 'last-ditch' blast from him *should* be able to do so, imo. /shrug

Yeah well whatever it was at least these movie recaps are over though the Universe 6 tournament might hopefully be decent.

The next manga is supposed to be released on the 20th. It should at least start one fight

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Yeah no shit. His final form works out to at least 220 times Mystic Gohan.

Black hair Gohan is as powerful as his Mystic self. He went super Saiyan which gave him a large boost and First Form Frieza still treated him like fodder. Frieza passed two forms that it significantly more powerful than his first form. 220 is being lenient imo.

Originally posted by Kento
How'd that figure come out?

First Form Frieza pl from Namek = 530 000
Final Form Frieza max power = 120 000 000

Divide that up and he gets 226.41 times more powerful from his transformations. There's no reason to assume his transformations changed his multipliers especially since that was just his natural no trained level.

And that's at minimum. It's probably closer to 450 times judging by how far above Gohan he was and how far above Tagoma Gohan was.

But yeah, Frieza was a beast, and base Goku is crazy high right now for being above that to some degree. Which pretty much assumes Piccolo and Buu get an upgrade just for even being in the tourney.

Oh... Again with the assumption somehow someone that could have been taken out by ssj Gotenks is Mystic Level..

I wonder what the SSB multiplier is. Has to definitely be more than 50x... And if its higher than ssj3 means final form to golden is over 400x stronger which is a huge jump.

Originally posted by Kento
Oh... Again with the assumption somehow someone that could have been taken out by ssj Gotenks is Mystic Level..

I wonder what the SSB multiplier is. Has to definitely be more than 50x... And if its higher than ssj3 means final form to golden is over 400x stronger which is a huge jump.

Mystic Gohan level stayed the same. It will always be at the same level. That doesn't mean Gohan can't become stronger, it's just that his form back then will always stay the same. Just like Goku's first SS transformation will always stay the same.

Mystic Gohan was what, 1.5 times stronger than SS3 Gotenks or around there. That puts him at 12 times stronger than SS1 Gotenks. Gotenks has about 2-5 years or whatever it was to increase it to some degree and close the gap. Even if he didn't catch up, the boys' power is going to shoot up in that time to a point where hitting someone in the balls with a full speed ram won't seem so bad. Though it shouldn't anyway.

Plus the repeated statements about him being equal to mystic Gohan as well. It can't get any more clearer really. They would have had to physically make Gohan time travel to that point in time to fight him while he was Super Buu era.

SSB seems to be at least twice. I wouldn't assume more until we know more though.